Final Form Magian Weapons

[Oulanbator]

I'd just kill fafnir for the egg myself.

Good luck with this. It might take a while, but don't give up till you get that egg. It's damn worth it.

[Priran]

I'd just kill fafnir for the egg myself.

[Milkster]

I'd just kill fafnir for the egg myself.

Oh man that's an oldie.

[Sin Harvest]

I'd just kill fafnir for the egg myself.

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/1951/26828104.jpg??

[Plow]

Still riding the smn trials, 100 Ghost on iceday, anyone have a good camp experience they wanna let slip out?

There's 5 (one is a ph for NM) at top of delkfutt's, but... ugh.

I dunno, personally I'd rather wait for pops than run around despawning stuff and shit, but those ghost rooms in tower are not particularly pleasant.

[Sin Harvest]

There's 5 (one is a ph for NM) at top of delkfutt's, but... ugh.

I dunno, personally I'd rather wait for pops than run around despawning stuff and shit, but those ghost rooms in tower are not particularly pleasant.

Just finished fei'yin was amazingly easy with the almost constant ice weather, I plan to do the 150 undead here as well, since the formor all spawn easy prey, get some shadow kills while I'm at it.

[Khajit]

Say what you want but the omelets are fucking amazing.

[Marokko]

Finished my Kokushitsonotachi today. Trio'd most of the shells and bought the rest. Pinned Chasmic Hornet for the stingers (bought 2). Soloed Mikey for 13 nuggets, bought the rest.

[Thalandor46]

Tried asking in the RQT but got no answer. I noticed on the def down polearm path, OtherWiki mentions that the AE won't overwrite itself and only procs when the effect is off. Does this happen with every AE debuff, or just def down?

[Neosutra]

Finished my Kokushitsonotachi today. Trio'd most of the shells and bought the rest. Pinned Chasmic Hornet for the stingers (bought 2). Soloed Mikey for 13 nuggets, bought the rest.

How do you like it so far?

[Logiks]

I realize you were asking him but I have koku as well, here's my 2 cents. I absolutely love it. I've still got hagun for situations where I can't TP off (Mictlanteusrensfs corse NM) but I'm parsing much much higher more consistently than I was with hagun in ls events. I've got usu feet/rajas so I've been using sword strap with it.

[Marokko]

I agree, this weapon is just amazing. It's crazy how often you SC with yourself when /drg.

[Thorny]

I realize you were asking him but I have koku as well, here's my 2 cents. I absolutely love it. I've still got hagun for situations where I can't TP off (Mictlanteusrensfs corse NM) but I'm parsing much much higher more consistently than I was with hagun in ls events. I've got usu feet/rajas so I've been using sword strap with it.

Should be 5hitting it if you have usu feet, nothing needs acc any more. 64 stp - 35 traits = 29 - 5 rajas = 24 - 4 rose = 20 - 7 usu = 13 - 5 askar = 8 - 1 brutal = 7 - 6 carbonara = 1, your choice of wtath/ecphoria/chivalrous/miclantecuhtli neck. If you have usu body, it's even easier:
Rajas, Rose, Usux2, Brutal, Carbonara. At the base, you're trading 80 attack for 175 hp and 17% ws frequency on a job that doesn't use attack for WS. If you have the accessory from miclante, it's even easier, replace carbonara with that, ecphoria, wtath and you can use red curry buns or pizza.

[Marokko]

I'm still working on my 25 feet to finish off my Usukane Sune-ate, so should I bother using Hachiman Kote +1, or just stick with a 6-hit until I can do it w/o sacrificing haste?

[Logiks]

Thanks for the numbers, thornny.

I've got white tathlum and COULD get mict's neck (9/15 on feet, 0/15 on neck) but I don't have usu body so I guess I'd be stuck with askar body.

[Thorny]

I'm still working on my 25 feet to finish off my Usukane Sune-ate, so should I bother using Hachiman Kote +1, or just stick with a 6-hit until I can do it w/o sacrificing haste?

6hit unless you have usu feet and capped acc(for carbonara)

capped acc part is mostly negated by 80 though, i'd advise anyone who bothered to get that GK to make a 5hit setup for it

and again, micl neck gets you best of both worlds ;x

[fndragon]

Tried asking in the RQT but got no answer. I noticed on the def down polearm path, OtherWiki mentions that the AE won't overwrite itself and only procs when the effect is off. Does this happen with every AE debuff, or just def down?

Every one of the Additional Effect Debuffs is non-overwritable, and lasts for 30 seconds in my experience. I suspect the activation rate is tied to the delay of the weapon, since I have the Def Down H2H and the Def Down GKT, and while the GKT "seems" to activate more quickly, I'm sure it activates about the same amount of time because the H2H punch more often. I also have a -Magic Evasion additional effect sword, and it follows the same pattern.

And, btw, in my experience most of the -15% defense down weapons are both stellar and easy to obtain. Plus they're crowd pleasers for other melee.

[Thalandor46]

Every one of the Additional Effect Debuffs is non-overwritable, and lasts for 30 seconds in my experience. I suspect the activation rate is tied to the delay of the weapon, since I have the Def Down H2H and the Def Down GKT, and while the GKT "seems" to activate more quickly, I'm sure it activates about the same amount of time because the H2H punch more often. I also have a -Magic Evasion additional effect sword, and it follows the same pattern.

And, btw, in my experience most of the -15% defense down weapons are both stellar and easy to obtain. Plus they're crowd pleasers for other melee.

Thanks for the info! I'm not gonna be making any decisions until after the next update, but yeah, right now def down is sitting at the top of my list.

[fredjanx]

Just finished this.
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/8350/prestelame.png

[nitsuj]

Just finished this.
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/8350/prestelame.png

Nice! Assuming that's a PLD weapon, how does it stand against Joy?