Final Form Magian Weapons

[Darkmagi]

Gsword >_> that would be one hell of a onehand sword.

[Thiefami]

lol.. prestelame

[Ragnell]

Which GK trials so far are the best, I've completed the STR path on one,now I'm hearing it's not good, but I still like the sword, i've noticed better numbers on it than hagun(duh), I'm also working on the Store TP GK, not sure if it's worth the time though and the Occ. attack 2-3 times to replace my Soboro

[Phoenyx]

Which GK trials so far are the best, I've completed the STR path on one,now I'm hearing it's not good, but I still like the sword, i've noticed better numbers on it than hagun(duh), I'm also working on the Store TP GK, not sure if it's worth the time though and the Occ. attack 2-3 times to replace my Soboro

STR and Store TP seem to be the most recommended, aside from Masamune. The OA2-3 Magian falls a little behind Soboro due to the distribution of attacks, I think. Might want to check out the previous What's better? thread, as it was discussed a few times in there.

[Ragnell]

STR and Store TP seem to be the most recommended, aside from Masamune. The OA2-3 Magian falls a little behind Soboro due to the distribution of attacks, I think. Might want to check out the previous What's better? thread, as it was discussed a few times in there.

Ah ok, thanks

[ronin sparthos]

Which GK trials so far are the best, I've completed the STR path on one,now I'm hearing it's not good, but I still like the sword, i've noticed better numbers on it than hagun(duh), I'm also working on the Store TP GK, not sure if it's worth the time though and the Occ. attack 2-3 times to replace my Soboro

Worthy of mention:

Masamune (aha)
STR Path
STP w/5hit
OAT w/ideal 5hit
OAT 6hit
DEF Down

Dont really see the point of the OA3 for SAM as it's a gain of only 4 base damage over Soboro.

Id like to know how the DA path would stack up against the above though.

[Ragnell]

Worthy of mention:

Masamune (aha)
STR Path
STP w/5hit
OAT w/ideal 5hit
OAT 6hit
DEF Down

Dont really see the point of the OA3 for SAM as it's a gain of only 4 base damage over Soboro.

Id like to know how the DA path would stack up against the above though.

Yea whats the furthest anyone's gotten on the Masamune path?

[Alarial]

It's been said in the random question thread and the what's better thread about 200 times, but:

OAT with 5 hit trumps all other magian options (by a good margin). The rank after that is:

6 hit Str GK > Stp 5 hit > everything else.

DPS ranking:

Spoiler: show

Name Delay Damage Weapon rank (floor(base damage/9)) fStr cap (weapon rank +8 ) Rounds to 100 TP pDif pDif crit pDif Avg D+fStr hits/round Hits/round to 100 TP Total TP damage WS Damage Total damage TP/Damage Proportion Seconds per round Time per WS DPS
OAT 464 71 6 14 3 2.32 3.14 2.443 85 1.55 4.65 965.59575 741.50825 1707.104 0.565633816 6.1 20.3 84.0937931
Relic 2.0 437 98 10 18 6 2.32 3.14 2.443 116 1.17 7.02 1989.38376 866.86075 2856.24451 0.696503312 5.7 36.2 78.90178204
Masamune 437 97 10 18 6 2.32 3.14 2.443 115 1.17 7.02 1972.2339 863.00375 2835.23765 0.695615022 5.7 36.2 78.32148204
Scathacha 420 91 10 18 6 2.32 3.14 2.443 109 1.17 7.02 1869.33474 854.3255 2723.66024 0.686331839 5.5 35 77.818864
Fire Magians 437 89 9 17 6 2.32 3.14 2.443 106 1.17 7.02 1817.88516 845.64725 2663.53241 0.68250912 5.7 36.2 73.57824337
Stp GK 464 91 10 18 5 2.32 3.14 2.443 109 1.15 5.75 1531.15025 839.86175 2371.012 0.645779207 6.1 32.5 72.95421538
Radenotachi 450 91 10 18 6 2.32 3.14 2.443 109 1.17 7.02 1869.33474 839.86175 2709.19649 0.689996 5.9 37.4 72.43840882
Futsuno 480 84 9 17 5 2.32 3.14 2.443 101 1.17 5.85 1443.44655 832.14775 2275.5943 0.634316297 6.3 33.5 67.92818806
Hagun 450 75 8 16 6 2.32 3.14 2.443 91 1.17 7.02 1560.63726 915.2545 2475.89176 0.630333396 5.9 37.4 66.20031444

And seeing as we saw the sword empyrean completed already, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a Masamune pop up sometime soon.

If you've already done the str, don't worry about the stp GK. Just focus on the OAT one.

[Ragnell]

It's been said in the random question thread and the what's better thread about 200 times, but:

OAT with 5 hit trumps all other magian options (by a good margin). The rank after that is:

6 hit Str GK > Stp 5 hit > everything else.

DPS ranking:

Spoiler: show

Name Delay Damage Weapon rank (floor(base damage/9)) fStr cap (weapon rank +8 ) Rounds to 100 TP pDif pDif crit pDif Avg D+fStr hits/round Hits/round to 100 TP Total TP damage WS Damage Total damage TP/Damage Proportion Seconds per round Time per WS DPS
OAT 464 71 6 14 3 2.32 3.14 2.443 85 1.55 4.65 965.59575 741.50825 1707.104 0.565633816 6.1 20.3 84.0937931
Relic 2.0 437 98 10 18 6 2.32 3.14 2.443 116 1.17 7.02 1989.38376 866.86075 2856.24451 0.696503312 5.7 36.2 78.90178204
Masamune 437 97 10 18 6 2.32 3.14 2.443 115 1.17 7.02 1972.2339 863.00375 2835.23765 0.695615022 5.7 36.2 78.32148204
Scathacha 420 91 10 18 6 2.32 3.14 2.443 109 1.17 7.02 1869.33474 854.3255 2723.66024 0.686331839 5.5 35 77.818864
Fire Magians 437 89 9 17 6 2.32 3.14 2.443 106 1.17 7.02 1817.88516 845.64725 2663.53241 0.68250912 5.7 36.2 73.57824337
Stp GK 464 91 10 18 5 2.32 3.14 2.443 109 1.15 5.75 1531.15025 839.86175 2371.012 0.645779207 6.1 32.5 72.95421538
Radenotachi 450 91 10 18 6 2.32 3.14 2.443 109 1.17 7.02 1869.33474 839.86175 2709.19649 0.689996 5.9 37.4 72.43840882
Futsuno 480 84 9 17 5 2.32 3.14 2.443 101 1.17 5.85 1443.44655 832.14775 2275.5943 0.634316297 6.3 33.5 67.92818806
Hagun 450 75 8 16 6 2.32 3.14 2.443 91 1.17 7.02 1560.63726 915.2545 2475.89176 0.630333396 5.9 37.4 66.20031444

And seeing as we saw the sword empyrean completed already, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a Masamune pop up sometime soon.

If you've already done the str, don't worry about the stp GK. Just focus on the OAT one.

The Fire magians I assume is the one I did?

[Alarial]

You're asking me which GK you did?

[Ragnell]

You're asking me which GK you did?

I'm asking which GK i did that you listed in that mess of numbers

[Alarial]

I'm asking which GK i did that you listed in that mess of numbers

You stated you completed the Fire Magians already:

I've completed the STR path one

So the one labeled "Fire Magians" would be it >.>.

[Ragnell]

Hence me saying I'm assuming, and could just said a simple yes

[Alarial]

Oh my bad, I thought I went through the work of mathing out the DPS of every weapon choice you had in your options while answering your question (that could have been answered with the search function in about 5 seconds), just to have you respond with "I don't want to put forth the effort to even read the data you gave to me, just tell me which is best". I'll try to be more sensitive next time.

[Ezekial]

Done! (2 days ago)

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h2...830_093515.png

Fucking nightmare to complete, I never want to see another Krabkasshole again, seriously took me about 15+ to get 10 shells... So far I am impressed with it

Now to figure out to how get 50 Carabosse gems

[Purrloin]

Quick question for the number savvy folks: Has anyone determined by weapon what equivalent OA2-x would equal the stronger OAT weapons? I'm more interested at how to do it, more than the actual results. I have already chosen the OA2-3 path. It would be nice to know how much potential I have sacrificed.

[miokomioko]

Why is everyone so prestelame?

[Lyramion]

Soon the gamble starts over on which paths were gold and which are now poop :D

[miokomioko]

Which is why I don't understand why people chose a path before the update... You could collect the items, but shit~

[fredjanx]

Which is why I don't understand why people chose a path before the update... You could collect the items, but shit~

If only the items were...... stackable