Final Form Magian Weapons

[Plow]

edit, oh, yeah, derp, it's gotta be kamome

agi mod is... interesting...

[chazzyphizzle]

ammo definitely isn't black tathlum, black tathlum shares the same model as morion. probably is the crit dmg + tath.

[Byrthnoth]

Looks like it's an AGI mod based on the way he's gearing, which is consistent with Eliane's theory (NIN Empyreal gets +10 AGI).

50 Base damage, fSTR caps at 13 and he's hit it (lolibri VIT is 62-65).

Minimum mods/fTP would have to obey:
(63+Mods)*??*3.15 = 4277
~1358/?? = 63 + (123*Mod%*.85)

Basically, in order to gear realistic mods in line with what other people are seeing (~50% AGI), the fTP would have to be about 12.

Edit I guess: For all we know, this was a non-representative Blade: Hi that represents two Double Attacks with crits. In that case, you could shave off 3 from the fTP and it would have an fTP around 9... still freaking ridiculous. I don't know how much HP Colibri have, which could help answer this question. The extra hits wouldn't land if the monster died first.

Edit x2: Well, all the Crit damage enhancing crap he's using also screws up the test a bit. I also don't know his sub. AF2 neck is almost certainly better than Gorget outside Abyssea though. Cavaros Mantle is 3%, no data on the other two. That could knock another 1 off fTP.

[ronin sparthos]

Oh lord, this means that Jishnu's Radiance will have a DEX mod. Oh well, at least it can crit.

NIN WS looks hot.

[Guitarman]

double mod on scythe ws has me worried. 30% STR 30% MND calling it now :/

[diasetsu]

Looks like it's an AGI mod based on the way he's gearing, which is consistent with Eliane's theory (NIN Empyreal gets +10 AGI).

50 Base damage, fSTR caps at 13 and he's hit it (lolibri VIT is 62-65).

Minimum mods/fTP would have to obey:
(63+Mods)*??*3.15 = 4277
~1358/?? = 63 + (123*Mod%*.85)

Basically, in order to gear realistic mods in line with what other people are seeing (~50% AGI), the fTP would have to be about 12.

Edit I guess: For all we know, this was a non-representative Blade: Hi that represents two Double Attacks with crits. In that case, you could shave off 3 from the fTP and it would have an fTP around 9... still freaking ridiculous. I don't know how much HP Colibri have, which could help answer this question. The extra hits wouldn't land if the monster died first.

Edit x2: Well, all the Crit damage enhancing crap he's using also screws up the test a bit. I also don't know his sub. AF2 neck is almost certainly better than Gorget outside Abyssea though. Cavaros Mantle is 3%, no data on the other two. That could knock another 1 off fTP.

You are using his agi from his WS set screenshot, clearly that WS dmg is from inside of abyssea and he probably has like 100 more AGI. Use those numbers and it looks more reasonably to be 5ftp, the same as quadruple damage sidewinder has.

[hexagram23]

double mod on scythe ws has me worried. 30% STR 30% MND calling it now :/

Farmed coins for 4 hours earlier. 0 Coin of Birth.

Even if it's 30% STR/MND, that's the same as Cross Reaper, with the added benefit of 3x damage and ignoring DEF. It's gonna be beastly.

[Byrthnoth]

You are using his agi from his WS set screenshot, clearly that WS dmg is from inside of abyssea and he probably has like 100 more AGI. Use those numbers and it looks more reasonably to be 5ftp, the same as quadruple damage sidewinder has.

Oh shit, Coastal. Probably not 100 more AGI, but maybe 45 more and Razed Ruin for "enhances crit damage"

[boo]

I also don't know his sub.

Sub is war

[diasetsu]

Oh shit, Coastal. Probably not 100 more AGI, but maybe 45 more and Razed Ruin for "enhances crit damage"

I was just going with the fact that I have around +100vit in TP gear, unless no one on his server does bastion, and ex-martello cores there arent boosted up. Either way I would guess fTP is 5

[Atoreis]

consistent with Eliane's theory (NIN Empyreal gets +10 AGI).

Dont want to boast or something but I suggested that like 2 weeks ago and wrote on this forum few times last is on page 135 or 136.


EDIT: Blade Hi dmg is expected for me (if thats with ruinz ) I did math few days ago for agi mod and it was close. If its 50% agi and with ruins then base dmg is about 2500 which would be about 6.0 ftp with his ws staff + abyssea buffs(about 180 total AGI). So 4.0 + 1.0(offhand(I was always wondering if offhand is simply +1.0 on ws?)+1.0 DA here it is 6.0.

Im still suprised i heavent seen 5k Strining pumpel yet. I quess all ppl that have ruinz atma dont care about pup

[Masamune]

Just read latest pages and saw recent testings for Empyrean weapons.

Wanted to say great job Eliane for completing this weapon and doing the testing.

Regarding the testing about Camlann's VIT mod, there is one prob you guys seemed to have completely forgot:
Eliane used VIT Etudes, while those songs have DECREASING effect over time (~ -1STAT/tic).
In other words, Eliane skewed her VIT mod tests by using different VIT values (without knowing most probably).

Other problem, as Motenten stated, is the uncapped fSTR indeed...

[Delain]

Im still suprised i heavent seen 5k Strining pumpel yet. I quess all ppl that have ruinz atma dont care about pup

What is this Stining pumpel you speak of? Here is a bit on my Pummeling the other day. We got RR last week, so this is the first time playing with it for me as PUP and it was amazing.

Spent a couple hours on Tuesday farming for AF3 feet in Vunk. WS set is Fire Taipan+1, Animator +1, Tokon head, WS Gorget, Brutal/Aesir, Shikkoku body/hands(increased crit damage), dex rings, AF cape, Virtuoso belt, Usukane legs, and rager ledelsens. Atmas were VV and RR. Cruor buffs to STR/DEX/VIT. I dont have exact STR or DEX total memorized. I am an elf with full str merits though. Was eating nq pizza. Mobs were Murex.

My Pummels were 2300 at the low end. High end were right around 3000. I was in the BLM party originally helping to snipe magic kills, and my COR was "unable" to give me melee rolls. If I would have had melee buffs, I dont see why I wouldnt have broke 4k.

[Atoreis]

Atmas were VV and RR.

I hate You.

[Eliane]

Just read latest pages and saw recent testings for Empyrean weapons.

Wanted to say great job Eliane for completing this weapon and doing the testing.

Regarding the testing about Camlann's VIT mod, there is one prob you guys seemed to have completely forgot:
Eliane used VIT Etudes, while those songs have DECREASING effect over time (~ -1STAT/tic).
In other words, Eliane skewed her VIT mod tests by using different VIT values (without knowing most probably).

Other problem, as Motenten stated, is the uncapped fSTR indeed...

The VIT value was consistant. One thing I should have mentioned ._. But the weaponskill was done directly AFTER the etudes were sung on me, and the value of VIT checked everytime when the weaponskill was executed. Basically, i popped sneak attack, sung 2x Etudes and did the weaponskill and repeated.

[EjinCaitsith]

Huge congratulations to Alihasan on 85 Masamune.

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/4...07masamune.png

From the little testing we did we learned a few things.

1) It absolutely destroys Amano.
2) It has 3 levels of aftermath, like mystics. 100=30 200=60 300=90.
3) ODD proc rate is at least 30%+. Might be even higher depending on aftermath level.
4) Fudo is insane.

[Byrthnoth]

Does ODD proc on Fudo?

[EjinCaitsith]

Does ODD proc on Fudo?

Yes. unless 4.4K is normal.

We're parsing for kicks right now in Abyssea and he's averaging 2.5K Fudos and i'm averaging 1.9 Kaitens.

[Guitarman]

forgot the 5th point ejin.

5) it's sexy as hell

[hexagram23]

forgot the 5th point ejin.

5) it's sexy as hell

26/30 on Coins of Birth now

Anybody else close that you know of?