Final Form Magian Weapons

[Guitarman]

Just you and me. Kirschy is the only other one crazy enough to go this far, but i'd assume she is working on the real weapon if at all. 6/8 on tammuz so not too far behind.

[EjinCaitsith]

For comparison sake. 1hr~ long parse at murex. I understand a parse doesn't show everything. So, please keep your "parse proves nothing" comments to yourselves, because i understand that.

Ejin is 5hit Amano and Alihasan is 6hit Masamune. Ejin has 23% gear haste; Alihasan has 18%. Otherwise same Atmas/buffs and so on.

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[Massimo]

Just you and me. Kirschy is the only other one crazy enough to go this far, but i'd assume she is working on the real weapon if at all. 6/8 on tammuz so not too far behind.

Shut the fuck up already. You're not even remotely close.

[Guitarman]

Shut the fuck up already. You're not even remotely close.

No? Pull the stick out of your ass.

[orson]

Man SE really loves Sam big time. Not only is it sounding like Fudo is the best WS out of these weapons so far Masamune is pretty much the easiest of them to get. I've said it before but SE really needs to re-examine the difficulty of getting some of these weapons. In comparison to Ukonvasara, Redemption, or Verethragna it's a complete and utter joke.

[Massimo]

No? Pull the stick out of your ass.

It's like the guy with a stage 1-3 Gungnir in his sig for years. No one cares.

[Guitarman]

It's like the guy with a stage 1-3 Gungnir in his sig for years. No one cares.

wasnt even talking to you to begin with. He asked me a question, i responded. Go away.

Man SE really loves Sam big time. Not only is it sounding like Fudo is the best WS out of these weapons so far Masamune is pretty much the easiest of them to get. I've said it before but SE really needs to re-examine the difficulty of getting some of these weapons. In comparison to Ukonvasara, Redemption, or Verethragna it's a complete and utter joke.

Willing to bet they were "planned out" by closing their eyes, spinning around real fast, and pointing to a list and saying THAT ONE!. That's about SE-level of planning.

[Lovex]

It's like the guy with a stage 1-3 Gungnir in his sig for years. No one cares.

LMAO! I always scratched my head wondering wtf about that. lolZ

[Massimo]

wasnt even talking to you to begin with. He asked me a question, i responded. Go away.

He asked who was close other than him (and if he wasn't, then he should have been). Thousands of people are already further than you, even if not intending to upgrade it further through WoE. The only challenging part is still ahead of you, and you continually refuse to acknowledge that.

And too bad, the whole "I wasn't talking to you" thing doesn't exactly work when posting on a public forum. If you want something to be private, PM it.

[ccl]

Yes. unless 4.4K is normal.

We're parsing for kicks right now in Abyssea and he's averaging 2.5K Fudos and i'm averaging 1.9 Kaitens.

Do you often see 4.4k with aftermath up and notice an increase in ws damage? or those number happen once in a while ? I've seen a few 4.4k - 4.7k with the one from WoE, if ODD proc on ws it mean sam could do over nine thousand :O

[Scrooge]

AF2 neck is almost certainly better than Gorget outside Abyssea though. Cavaros Mantle is 3%, no data on the other two. That could knock another 1 off fTP.

Iga Erimaki is approx. 2% crit dmg bonus.
Threw a chakram at Ronfaure mobs for 165 crits. Put on the Erimaki and it went up to 168.

[Guitarman]

He asked who was close other than him (and if he wasn't, then he should have been). Thousands of people are already further than you, even if not intending to upgrade it further through WoE. The only challenging part is still ahead of you, and you continually refuse to acknowledge that.

And too bad, the whole "I wasn't talking to you" thing doesn't exactly work when posting on a public forum. If you want something to be private, PM it.

It was an offhand question he asked by quoting me directly. I answered no, i do not know anyone, i said i'm "fairly" close. Maybe WoE will be hard for YOU but it will not be for ME. Get that through your thick skull. I have several different options at my disposal to get my coins. But thanks for butting in anyways. Can we stop derailing this thread about with your little infatuation with me now please? This shit is interesting and i have no want to derail a good thread.

[EjinCaitsith]

Do you often see 4.4k with aftermath up and notice an increase in ws damage? or those number happen once in a while ? I've seen a few 4.4k - 4.7k with the one from WoE, if ODD proc on ws it mean sam could do over nine thousand :O

I'm assuming those 4.4-4.7 are DAs on weak(ish) mobs when you have zerk/red bun/chaos/300%tp and so on. I was fully expecting to see some 8K+ WS, but doesn't look like this is the case, or its very very rare.

[Massimo]

It was an offhand question he asked by quoting me directly. I answered no, i do not know anyone, i said i'm "fairly" close. Maybe WoE will be hard for YOU but it will not be for ME. Get that through your thick skull. I have several different options at my disposal to get my coins. But thanks for butting in anyways. Can we stop derailing this thread about with your little infatuation with me now please? This shit is interesting and i have no want to derail a good thread.

Yes, I'm sure getting WoE coins will be a breeze for someone who can can barely get past the initial stages. If you do have 18 idiots aligned up to help farm you coins, good for you, but it'll still take a good while.

Also, derailing a "Final Form Magian Weapons" thread about how hard it is to finish one of them? Really? I don't want people wasting their time trying to get WoE coins, because they think it's oh so easy due to someone like you.

[Kirschy]

Just you and me. Kirschy is the only other one crazy enough to go this far, but i'd assume she is working on the real weapon if at all. 6/8 on tammuz so not too far behind.

I have no plans to upgrade a Redemption. I am kinda burned out between the time/effort/gil I spent on a Mythic that was barely comparable to it's relic counterpart in real-game situations, and the hundreds of hours I poured into relic trials only to learn it doesn't hold a candle to an upgraded Empyrean. Shit happens though, and from what I can see the new Empyreans look realli cool. I'll be eagerly awaiting any Redemption/Quietus testing from whoever ends up completing the weapons.

[Guitarman]

I have no plans to upgrade a Redemption. I am kinda burned out between the time/effort/gil I spent on a Mythic that was barely comparable to it's relic counterpart in real-game situations, and the hundreds of hours I poured into relic trials only to learn it doesn't hold a candle to an upgraded Empyrean. Shit happens though, and from what I can see the new Empyreans look realli cool. I'll be eagerly awaiting any Redemption/Quietus testing from whoever ends up completing the weapons.

Too bad. I always looked up to you as the top DRK, starting way back in the KI days, but I can understand the burnout. relic owners got shafted hard. Who has time for 3k kills anymore?

[Zag]

Sorry, I do not play ff11 as often because of my career now but I wanted to ask a question.

Is the empyrean weapons stronger then relic weapons, or will relic weapons still be on top, always? Does the 2x proc aftermath work on WS too?
Too many pages to read.

Acc is good and all but al level 99, do you really need +50 acc on a weapon? I am starting to see that the +attack relics aren't so jealous about the acc anymore from the +accuracy relics.

Will redemption trump apocalyse though and does masamune trump amano?... time will tell or an BG answer will tell

[Plow]

or reading this one single page will tell

[Zag]

yea my bad i found it before you posted. Its not this page though, its the page before this. Page 138. Well thanks

[Byrthnoth]

Iga Erimaki is approx. 2% crit dmg bonus.
Threw a chakram at Ronfaure mobs for 165 crits. Put on the Erimaki and it went up to 168.

...Wow... That's horrible! Even Dancer's 100% JSE Ammo off the iron giant is a 5% boost! So, consensus is that OADD doesn't work on WS, or does? Parse leaves the possibility open, but it seems people have said both things. Also, get that boy (or girl) some Haste gear! What the shit is an 18% 6-hit about?