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    Quote Originally Posted by ejiboo View Post
    zorro ws puts out some great numbers on blu/rdm, haven't seen a pld with it though. not sure how it would stand up vs. atonement with the +1 weapon but i'm sure the emp would kill it.
    someone posted SS on JP forum,5k on Frog in LT, 3.4k on Heqet, etc.
    I guess Almace killed Excalibur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cybaster View Post
    These are testing number from wild rabbit in ronfaure. I was using daka+1, but aside from dex+10, the damage should be identical to twashtar, they have same dmg.

    Tried to do a few 300% rudra storm tests, and the fTP is at least 7.24, probably 7.25 or 7.5? Maximum potential wise (at 100%), evisceration can get close, but remember with 5 hits and 1 offhand, you can only have 2 additional hits left. With rudra storm, while pretty rare, can proc 4 additional hits. Though I guess if all of those evis hits were to crit, it would still win?

    Unless I just missed the second hit of rudra's storm 6 times in a row, this ws is one hit.
    i've missed a hit while not stacking with SA/TA plenty of times and i come out with 5-6% less tp and only a 100dmg WS. this is with dual wielding. but i assume the same goes for single weilding. the reason we only get 5% back from lowbies is because we one shot them with the first hit. if it's not two hit then i have no idea why sometimes i'll end up with 5% instead of 10/11 and do 100dmg instead of 700~ solo. oh wait... i remember stacking it before as the finishing blow to a mob and sometimes i'll come out with 5% and it'll do like 700-900 dmg.

    it's def two hits. even the animation is two hits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilgam View Post
    someone posted SS on JP forum,5k on Frog in LT, 3.4k on Heqet, etc.
    I guess Almace killed Excalibur.
    - Chant du Cygne 38105 100.00 % 49/0 100.00 % 238/1421 777.65

    this is with the +1 version on blu fighting campas in attohwa. he was matching my fudo numbers.

    - Tachi: Fudo 162365 100.00 % 173/9 95.05 % 329/2584 938.53

    another thing about CDC is that it's a crit ws... so here comes RR! he might be getting RR this saturday so we'll see how that works. these are with only one lunar and shitty abyssites T.T.

    oh yeah and CDC opens or closes light. goes great with fudo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ejiboo View Post
    i've missed a hit while not stacking with SA/TA plenty of times and i come out with 5-6% less tp and only a 100dmg WS. this is with dual wielding. but i assume the same goes for single weilding. the reason we only get 5% back from lowbies is because we one shot them with the first hit. if it's not two hit then i have no idea why sometimes i'll end up with 5% instead of 10/11 and do 100dmg instead of 700~ solo. oh wait... i remember stacking it before as the finishing blow to a mob and sometimes i'll come out with 5% and it'll do like 700-900 dmg.

    it's def two hits. even the animation is two hits.
    The reason why you get 5% is because you missed one of the dual wield, not the second hit. If you dual wield, you will gain full TP return on each hand on WS, and 1 TP per additional hit. So for 1-hit WS it'll be 5 (main hand) + 5 (offhand) + 1 (times the number of additional hit). If you try to single wield, without store tp, you will get 5 from first hit, 6 from DA, 7 from TA. If you remove DA gear, you will never see 6 TP return, which practically means it's one hit.

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    Anyone here working on armageddon, or am i alone in the quest? =(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurara View Post
    Anyone here working on armageddon, or am i alone in the quest? =(
    my ls lead is working on it. Just under halfway done with the nm drops.

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    Finished Harrier+1 and got Jishnu's Radiance.

    Anyone have any idea how I can test the mod on this? I can't force crits since its a ranged WS and is 3hits. I assume its DEX modded since the Gandiva has +10 DEX but better safe than sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarman View Post
    my ls lead is working on it. Just under halfway done with the nm drops.
    cool, let me know how it is asap, i think its gonna be pretty beast 100% accurate WS agi mod, for cor...niceeee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurara View Post
    cool, let me know how it is asap, i think its gonna be pretty beast 100% accurate WS agi mod, for cor...niceeee
    don't worry, i'm going to twist his arm until he does tests for me lol.

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    Tell me when he does I wanna watch that gun in action. xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by fereydoon View Post
    Tell me when he does I wanna watch that gun in action. xD
    dont let fereydoon watch, he smells like crap...but yeah cant wait for this thing to get done. got high hopes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fereydoon View Post
    It's not my fault bugbear didn't pop for like 2 days!
    I was so fucking mad lol

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    So some testing on Jishnu's Radiance on Wild Rabbits. 10 WS for each setup from 13.5' each time.

    Normal (Bow+1 + Iron Arrows)
    71STR / 74 DEX / 80 AGI

    Low: 924
    High: 1155

    DEX (Jupiter's Ring, Byakko's, Lithe Boots)
    71 STR / 101 DEX / 86 AGI

    Low: 996
    High: 1245

    STR (Vulcan's Ring, Teutates, Skadi Jambeaux, Buccaneer's, Smilodon+1, Bushinomimi, Triumph Earring)
    STR 101 / DEX 74 / 80 AGI

    Low: 933
    High: 1166

    AGI (Hachiryu Sune-Ate, Blobnag Ring, Hope Torque)
    AGI 101 / 71 STR / 74 DEX

    Low: 924
    High: 1155

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    WTF, that's a huge jump in STR yet you did such little extra damage...


    Now, is that because it's vs a lv 1 rabbit (so capped fSTR I'd imagine?) or do these WS just have very, very high WSC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malacite View Post
    WTF, that's a huge jump in STR yet you did such little extra damage...


    Now, is that because it's vs a lv 1 rabbit (so capped fSTR I'd imagine?) or do these WS just have very, very high WSC?


    Stop posting.

    This test's result is so clear that is hard to not understand it.

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    Jishnu's fTP about a 1.75 as long as WSC for DEX is 50% it seems?

    You weren't capping your fSTR with your STR at 71, almost but not quite.

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    Weapon number 2 for me, now for blade hi.

    http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/9...1020164452.png

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin sparthos View Post
    So some testing on Jishnu's Radiance on Wild Rabbits. 10 WS for each setup from 13.5' each time.

    Normal (Bow+1 + Iron Arrows)
    71STR / 74 DEX / 80 AGI

    Low: 924
    High: 1155

    DEX (Jupiter's Ring, Byakko's, Lithe Boots)
    71 STR / 101 DEX / 86 AGI

    Low: 996
    High: 1245

    STR (Vulcan's Ring, Teutates, Skadi Jambeaux, Buccaneer's, Smilodon+1, Bushinomimi, Triumph Earring)
    STR 101 / DEX 74 / 80 AGI

    Low: 933
    High: 1166

    AGI (Hachiryu Sune-Ate, Blobnag Ring, Hope Torque)
    AGI 101 / 71 STR / 74 DEX

    Low: 924
    High: 1155
    You don't need to WS at a certain range on lv1 bunnies since your attack should be capped anywhere. Luckily ranged attacks cap exactly at 3.0 for normals.

    You should repeat the test once more using the appropriate gorget and either myself or someone else here can give you the exact mods of the WS~

    Running the math, it seems to fit with 1.75 ftp /w a 60% DEX modifier. Since it's a 3-hit WS, you should be getting 1.0 ftp on subsequent hits, and each hit has a chance to do 25% more damage from crit. You're looking at ~3.75 ftp /w 60% dex mod. I bet RR atma with this WS makes for some amazing numbers~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarman View Post
    i'm more jealous of the fact you have 35 stones in reserve than the katana, tbh.
    I have 110 stored >.>

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