Final Form Magian Weapons

[Villian]

I hope we do get another stp tier soon so I can work around my 5hits 10% WS DMG gkt. Sporting Hachiman body for WS so I don't have 99tp issue when I meditate.

[Auburn]

If it follows the patterns of previous STP tiers then we should get another 5 STP at lv 90.

[Gerkin]

Just got the WoE version of the GK yesterday, and I'm not getting the same numbers people are boasting about. Either im doing something wrong or they are embellishing. In attowha with SA and VV atmas active, i was ranging from 1100 to 1500, with a random 2400 ( i assume double attack?). People are boasting 2k average with 3k-4k maxes. My fudo gear is just my gekko gear, which is high str. Anyone else with fudo having this issue?

[lolwut]

Just got the WoE version of the GK yesterday, and I'm not getting the same numbers people are boasting about. Either im doing something wrong or they are embellishing. In attowha with SA and VV atmas active, i was ranging from 1100 to 1500, with a random 2400 ( i assume double attack?). People are boasting 2k average with 3k-4k maxes. My fudo gear is just my gekko gear, which is high str. Anyone else with fudo having this issue?

Ccl is in my ls, so I can vouch that his numbers are legit. What gear are you using? Most people posting dmg have fairly perfected sets.

Also, does this mean you won't be leeching in WoE anymore, or are you still going to be sponging off other people's work on your lolpup?

[Gerkin]

Ccl is in my ls, so I can vouch that his numbers are legit. What gear are you using? Most people posting dmg have fairly perfected sets.

Also, does this mean you won't be leeching in WoE anymore, or are you still going to be sponging off other people's work on your lolpup?

lol woe drama. Dunno who you are, but its very rare that im ever there not farming in a small group, by myself, or with a WoE LS. If i entered one of your runs and got a personal chest im sorry, ill send you some durium ore.

For the main post. My gear is pretty solid, though im missing some new gear.

My ws set is:
Pole Grip, Thew bomblet, shura head (need viking), snow gorget, bushi, brutal, rajas, flame, osode, alky, forager, warwolf, shura+1 legs, and rutters.

Theres not much to change around really that i can pinpoint. Merits are all the way to cap, and skill is very close to cap (just recapped recently).

[chazzyphizzle]

/war, berserk, red curry, af+2 feet or perle feet, usu/hachiryu/af+2 legs

[fredjanx]

I assume you have VV and Stout arm atmas?

[lolwut]

lol woe drama. Dunno who you are, but its very rare that im ever there not farming in a small group, by myself, or with a WoE LS. If i entered one of your runs and got a personal chest im sorry, ill send you some durium ore.

For the main post. My gear is pretty solid, though im missing some new gear.

My ws set is:
Pole Grip, Thew bomblet, shura head (need viking), snow gorget, bushi, brutal, rajas, flame, osode, alky, forager, warwolf, shura+1 legs, and rutters.

Theres not much to change around really that i can pinpoint. Merits are all the way to cap, and skill is very close to cap (just recapped recently).

If it was only one run I wouldn't have mentioned it, but thanks for the ore bro.

Compared to the Fudo Sam I know using the same weapon, you're 19 - 22 gear str and a Red Curry +1 short. That doesn't seem like a big enough difference to account for the difference in results though, it may be an issue of furtherance abyssites and additional buffs. I'll ask around when I get online and see if I can get solid totals on the overall str/atk they're typically using.

Ninja edit: Martellos and mob type may have also come into play in your case, what were you killing?

[Gerkin]

Yeah i started playing yesterday with Razed ruins and VV, but switched to VV and stout arm to see if it would pump the numbers a bit and it did. It seems to consistantly beat gekko which is good. I also was there on /nin helping tank stuff so maybe thats the disconnect if the numbers are coming from /war and zerk... My attack was only in the high 500s during WS

Edit to reply to edit: Was in attowha, the worms were giving me the worst numbers for some reason, but fought some eruca, scorpions, mandys.

[fredjanx]

edit: nvm

[macross]

Well if you're sub nin and in a full ally without bard or cor support, your numbers will be lower of course. Sub nin in TE pt with monk revenant fists +1, I avg 2200 vs murex, 2600 avg when subbing war. When duoing stuff, where the mobs aren't IT, the numbers go up alot as well. But I use the 50 agi atma + RR when I'm lowmanning on mnk. Crazy counter rates with counterstance up, barely get hit at all.

[lolwut]

Yeah i started playing yesterday with Razed ruins and VV, but switched to VV and stout arm to see if it would pump the numbers a bit and it did. It seems to consistantly beat gekko which is good. I also was there on /nin helping tank stuff so maybe thats the disconnect if the numbers are coming from /war and zerk... My attack was only in the high 500s during WS

Edit to reply to edit: Was in attowha, the worms were giving me the worst numbers for some reason, but fought some eruca, scorpions, mandys.

500s for atk sounds very low with food, Berserk, +50 atk, +120 str, even before you factor in party/temp buffs.

[Auburn]

Yeah i started playing yesterday with Razed ruins and VV, but switched to VV and stout arm to see if it would pump the numbers a bit and it did. It seems to consistantly beat gekko which is good. I also was there on /nin helping tank stuff so maybe thats the disconnect if the numbers are coming from /war and zerk... My attack was only in the high 500s during WS

Edit to reply to edit: Was in attowha, the worms were giving me the worst numbers for some reason, but fought some eruca, scorpions, mandys.

It was probably due to Gastric Bomb. >.>; lol

[FailureMidgard]

lol woe drama. Dunno who you are, but its very rare that im ever there not farming in a small group, by myself, or with a WoE LS. If i entered one of your runs and got a personal chest im sorry, ill send you some durium ore.

For the main post. My gear is pretty solid, though im missing some new gear.

My ws set is:
Pole Grip, Thew bomblet, shura head (need viking), snow gorget, bushi, brutal, rajas, flame, osode, alky, forager, warwolf, shura+1 legs, and rutters.

Theres not much to change around really that i can pinpoint. Merits are all the way to cap, and skill is very close to cap (just recapped recently).

No offense at all, but that gear is not "pretty solid", and a lot of us went from Amano to Masamune, and are using near-perfect Kaiten setups for Fudo. Viking Hat, Strigoi Ring, Heafoc Mitts, Warwolf w/4attack, Hachiryu, Byrnie+1, Af3+2 are changes I have, right off the bat. And then you're using a shit gimp SJ, and just based on everything else you've said, I'm assuming worse food also. But so far, you're losing out on 19% damage from overwhelm, ~20% average damage from berserk+attack bonus, some more from DA, who knows how much from food/gear that I've already mentioned...I see you short a good 80ish attack on gear alone though.

Yeah i started playing yesterday with Razed ruins and VV, but switched to VV and stout arm to see if it would pump the numbers a bit and it did. It seems to consistantly beat gekko which is good. I also was there on /nin helping tank stuff so maybe thats the disconnect if the numbers are coming from /war and zerk... My attack was only in the high 500s during WS

Edit to reply to edit: Was in attowha, the worms were giving me the worst numbers for some reason, but fought some eruca, scorpions, mandys.

And ya, high 500s attack is fucking terrible, I hit 593 without food, without abyssea, and without berserk? So ya...

[Gerkin]

im not missing anything from overwhelm, but yeah berserk. And i looked again i was way off on my guestimation for attack is all.

[FailureMidgard]

im not missing anything from overwhelm, but yeah berserk. And i looked again i was way off on my guestimation for attack is all.

Oh, my bad, saw SA and missed the atma part, thought you meant /thf, haha. In any case, you def have a lot of room to improve your WS gear, no idea why you think there isn't much to change. Masamune also has an additional 10str, fwiw. But really, inside Abyssea, should pretty easily be breaking 900 attack with berserk up...

[Thorny]

If i entered one of your runs and got a personal chest im sorry, ill send you some durium ore.

Man, I hate people like this in my WoE. I really don't get why it wasn't instanced..

[ronin sparthos]

Man, I hate people like this in my WoE. I really don't get why it wasn't instanced..

It's how SE caters to casuals: make the event a clusterfuck of leechers.

[Guitarman]

That's one of the two things i hate most about woe: leechers, and the fact that the only flux lowmannable at this point is 2, and unless you want to be one of those leechers, you have to sit on ass while the same group spams it. shit sucks.

[Gerkin]

Oh, my bad, saw SA and missed the atma part, thought you meant /thf, haha. In any case, you def have a lot of room to improve your WS gear, no idea why you think there isn't much to change. Masamune also has an additional 10str, fwiw. But really, inside Abyssea, should pretty easily be breaking 900 attack with berserk up...

All i said was solid. i mean something different than you do by solid i think. But yeah always room for improvement. And i was /nin helping tank stuff, so ill just have to go back with some curry, buffs, and /war and see what i can do. The way everyone ive talked to makes it sound (people with similar or worse gear than me), they talk like 2k+ is an every WS thing and i just havent been seeing that is all. That was what i was asking about.

Edit to add:
WoE is the worst event SE has made so far IMO. I was there grinding solo every day for the month for hours. Sometimes id get a few people and win 2, and get nothing. Sometimes id go with a WoE ls and do higher tiers and get nothing. In the end, the majority of my coins came from clearing baby mobs in 1 and 3, with 2 other people that were just there solo like me. I went in wanting to be the most honest WoE'er in the history of WoE... and by the last week was justifying to myself going into runs in 2 sometimes when people went in, and 4 other pld leechers were already there. Does bother me a little to be called out as if this is how i accomplished my goal but its whatever, it just pisses me off that SE hasnt done anything to change it. No reason others should be able to enter our runs, and no reason the coins shouldnt be tradeable.