Final Form Magian Weapons

[Malacite]

Speaking of Blade: Hi, what are the highs so far? I remember some numbers were posted a few pages back, but it's a 4x dmg crit WS, that's gotta be capable of some nasty numbers with RR + SS & Kamome off-handed (+70% crit damage...)

[Cleverness]

Is Blade: Hi performing better than Jin outside of Abyssea as well?

Curious about this as well, since I haven't seen a ton of info about it. Leveling my NIN and my Mozu that I finished when ToM came out is 1 trial off from the coins phase, wondering about the damage potential.

[Mafai]

Hmmm there was many raport of strange crits with Masamune and how about this.

Atmas GH+RR
22dmg weapon
max crit should be (22+41+11)*3,15*1,3= 303
So how the fuck I did 391 out of nowhere?

Unless limule has some hidden effect of being hit for 30% more dmg XD

I think they take extra damage while casting.

[Mafai]

Speaking of Blade: Hi, what are the highs so far? I remember some numbers were posted a few pages back, but it's a 4x dmg crit WS, that's gotta be capable of some nasty numbers with RR + SS & Kamome off-handed (+70% crit damage...)

this was from my friends post on guildwork. this was first night, i think he was still tweaking his sets as well

http://lmxvii.guildwork.com

Not bad for my first night using it:
Kilik uses Blade: Hi.
The Farfadet takes 4100 points of damage.

Kilik uses Blade: Hi.
The Farfadet takes 4111 points of damage.

Kilik scores a critical hit!
The Farfadet takes 606 points of damage.

Kilik scores a critical hit!
The Farfadet takes 613 points of damage.

[Ocara]

I think they take extra damage while casting.

Murex do, I wouldn't be surprised if it was all Voragean. Needs testing.

[Mafai]

Murex do, I wouldn't be surprised if it was all Voragean. Needs testing.

All i know is one time I WS'd at 90% on our fourth mob and got our group a nice ruby light while it was casting (i run around with mage and weaken them so he can one shot them). We had to exit and restart lights.

[Scrooge]

Well I made some virtual parse of 5 min fight and MNK/nin Emp actually lose to Ukonvasara war/sam (hasso fulltime) and to Kannagi nin/war also.

Why in holy hell would you compare a fulltime hasso war/sam to a mnk/nin?

Gee, let's handicap the scenario then pretend it has any kind of relevance at all?

[Nightfyre]

Why in holy hell would you compare a fulltime hasso war/sam to a mnk/nin?

Gee, let's handicap the scenario then pretend it has any kind of relevance at all?

This. And if both /NIN, WAR gives up more than MNK...

[fredjanx]

This. And if both /NIN, WAR gives up more than MNK...

Until December patch anyways.

[Nightfyre]

Until December patch anyways.

Can't DW Empyreans brah.

Isn't the axe geared more towards BST anyway?

[fredjanx]

I thought that was a general statement :< my bad

[Malacite]

Daaaamn that's some nice Hi numbers....


Can't wait to see how 90 shakes things up, since a lot more major abilities will come into play (TH2, DW3, Aggressor)

[Humblejoe]

Daaaamn that's some nice Hi numbers....


Can't wait to see how 90 shakes things up, since a lot more major abilities will come into play... TH2

Because TH2 wasn't already in play...

[ronin sparthos]

Can't DW Empyreans brah.

Isn't the axe geared more towards BST anyway?

Cloudsplitter definitely seems more like a BST WS being magical and all.

The only poster that got the WoE version did no testing beyond the initial "it sucks" which didn't take into account Abyssea, atmas or anything. =(

[Nightfyre]

I thought that was a general statement :< my bad

Yeah with non-Empyrean/WoE weapons I'd agree, DW III will be pretty nice for WAR at 90.

[Malacite]

Because TH2 wasn't already in play...

Last time I checked TH2 was still THF 45

[boo]

He prolly meant treasure hunter from Atma

[Fievel]

He's saying that people already have TH2 and it's already in use in game, obviously.

[Vincento]

Nah nah, let me clear this shit up. Malacite is suggesting people will /thf for TH2, and Humblejoe is talking about the relic thf already in every party.

[Scrooge]

Bit confused on the damage equation for figuring out wsc and fTP.

( D + fSTR + WSC) * fTP * PDIF

PDif is what's bothering me. Capped att on bunnies outside Sandy for a one hander should put me at 2. Crit adds 1. Random variance of x1.00 to x1.05 should make my crit ws vary from 3.00 to 3.15 only right? As in my Sneak Attack'ed one-handed, fSTR capped, Att capped WS should do between:

( Weapon Damage + fSTR + WSC ) * fTP * 3 and
( Weapon Damage + fSTR + WSC ) * fTP * 3.15

right?

Or am I missing something big and it can dip below 3? Cause this is driving me crazy.