Final Form Magian Weapons

[Naratu]

So i just saw someones smite setup in here, which answered half my questions thank you for that.
Then i saw the sexy h2h, and thought i'd ask my other question.

I have FINALLY finished my 50 chloris buds, (hate you dirty whore mandy, worst pops to farm evar) and i am excited to get started on Ulhuadshi. I have fought him only one time before, and he was pretty straight foward. I tanked on mnk/war with RR GH SS, and found it to be a little rough.
The few things i had a question on was, last time i was /war, and i was having a problem with counterstance working as my acc was shit due to being blind almost the entire fight.
The mages were pre occupied with cure spamming because i was told to come /war. I was thinking this time, i'd /nin, use pizza+1, and have someone dedicated to nothing but blinda, erase/haste.
Now im no expert, but i've read accounts of people duo/trioing this, and i just finished helping a friend with some Glavoids which i've been told is worse.
Any tips on him? things to watch for, i know his stat down move is horrible, Psyche drain irrc, but other than that he didnt seem too bad.
Subjob /nin? I didnt like war much, and this time i'll have even less support. It very well could be just me a whm and a nin. I will probably have a few more people trickle in and out from my ls to snag some +2 af.
Thank you for reading this, any tips would be greatly appreciated. The tip i got here last time was about sippoy wandering into camp when fighting chloris, and it saved me a few times just keeping an eye out for him as i was duoing chloris. Thank you again for that

Manaburn him. I did all of mine with 10-12 people DD style, shit sucked. Manaburning him is such a joke. Duo is possible, Trio obviously makes it easier. But yeah, if you have the people to do so, do it with 2 RDMs and a BLM or something like that.

[Cream Soda]

hmm anything in general to watch out for w/ the NM or is it pretty much a straight forward fight? (puhch, ws, macro in MDT as necessary, etc.). 23 buds to go and I'll be on this trial myself.

I'll be looking to fill the pt w/ /shout ppl who want af2, so not rly expecting anything spectacular from them. Most likely set up is going to be Mnk (me), Whm (my mule), pick up pt healer, pick up pt thf (TH ftw), pick up pt blm (i honestly don't give a shit what this guy does if they want +2 items they can figure that out on their own), war (proccing weakness on percy/amun).

So, basically, I'll be pulling most of the weight in this fight w/ some back up healer, some TH and some sense of security for them to get items + proccer.

Anything I should look out for w/ this NM? I'm not too worried about them fucking up since they'll be playing minor roles, just concerned with what I need to be doing between me, my whm mule, and possibly the back up healer.

[Odin'sLaw]

hmm anything in general to watch out for w/ the NM or is it pretty much a straight forward fight? (puhch, ws, macro in MDT as necessary, etc.). 23 buds to go and I'll be on this trial myself.

I'll be looking to fill the pt w/ /shout ppl who want af2, so not rly expecting anything spectacular from them. Most likely set up is going to be Mnk (me), Whm (my mule), pick up pt healer, pick up pt thf (TH ftw), pick up pt blm (i honestly don't give a shit what this guy does if they want +2 items they can figure that out on their own), war (proccing weakness on percy/amun).

So, basically, I'll be pulling most of the weight in this fight w/ some back up healer, some TH and some sense of security for them to get items + proccer.

Anything I should look out for w/ this NM? I'm not too worried about them fucking up since they'll be playing minor roles, just concerned with what I need to be doing between me, my whm mule, and possibly the back up healer.

love you long time if you get 4/5 head's +1 lol

[Naratu]

hmm anything in general to watch out for w/ the NM or is it pretty much a straight forward fight? (puhch, ws, macro in MDT as necessary, etc.). 23 buds to go and I'll be on this trial myself.

I'll be looking to fill the pt w/ /shout ppl who want af2, so not rly expecting anything spectacular from them. Most likely set up is going to be Mnk (me), Whm (my mule), pick up pt healer, pick up pt thf (TH ftw), pick up pt blm (i honestly don't give a shit what this guy does if they want +2 items they can figure that out on their own), war (proccing weakness on percy/amun).

So, basically, I'll be pulling most of the weight in this fight w/ some back up healer, some TH and some sense of security for them to get items + proccer.

Anything I should look out for w/ this NM? I'm not too worried about them fucking up since they'll be playing minor roles, just concerned with what I need to be doing between me, my whm mule, and possibly the back up healer.

Well, Psyche Suction fucking sucks. You'll hit for 0 over and over, and probably never counter. I'm sure BRD MNK WHM could trio it with little difficulty. He can just be an ass sometimes with his TP moves. Make sure you are fast with cures (Gale can hurt really bad). Psyche suction is pretty much where you just spam cures on yourself til it's over. As I said before, if you have the means to manaburn it, do it. It's so much easier. But, if you must DD it, just be fast with heals, and be prepared for an annoying fight.

[Deader2818]

Yeah, manaburn is totally the way to go. Going to spend a good portion of the fight just doing 0 dmg or missing like crazy, lol.

[Atoreis]

Ulhuadshi is a joke. BRD NIN(me with Kannagi) WHM totaly destroyed it. It all depends how many time its gona use psyche drain ( move that absorb random stats (str, vit, int etc)). If some stats is absorbed you will have this stat 1 (for example Str 92-91) so you dmg will fell a lot his will raise. Vit his def will raise your drop (not entirely true for mnk on counterstance). Depends what he absorbed you probably need to wait till it wears off (as a mnk you might save focus + aggressor for psyche drain in case he absorb your dex and agility ). Blindna should be prioritized before cure tbh on mnk (mnk should easily live for a little more after blind move and blinda automatically saves a lot dmg taken raising counter rate).

Short story NIN BRD WHM I was killing it in like 2-3 min top with every psyche drain making fight takes 1min+ longer.

EDIT: Also I was never hitting for 0. Dmg dropped to 2digits yeah but no 0.

[Hitoseijuro]

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Grats to Morte and Eckz on Ifrit

Theyve come a long way in gear/achievements since joining the shell, Grats guys. How they use that gear though is up to them...

Eckz still working on his 5hit, Mortes working on staying alive from chigoes.....

[Avarice]

hmm anything in general to watch out for w/ the NM or is it pretty much a straight forward fight? (puhch, ws, macro in MDT as necessary, etc.). 23 buds to go and I'll be on this trial myself.

I'll be looking to fill the pt w/ /shout ppl who want af2, so not rly expecting anything spectacular from them. Most likely set up is going to be Mnk (me), Whm (my mule), pick up pt healer, pick up pt thf (TH ftw), pick up pt blm (i honestly don't give a shit what this guy does if they want +2 items they can figure that out on their own), war (proccing weakness on percy/amun).

So, basically, I'll be pulling most of the weight in this fight w/ some back up healer, some TH and some sense of security for them to get items + proccer.

Anything I should look out for w/ this NM? I'm not too worried about them fucking up since they'll be playing minor roles, just concerned with what I need to be doing between me, my whm mule, and possibly the back up healer.

As most have said, Ulhuadshi is a joke of a fight, though I highly doubt that the needs to make a manaburn setup are necessary. Even with Psyche Suction, average fight length for a MNK+WHM+THF didn't take longer then 4-5 minutes depending on how spammy he was the move. From my experiences, Slaverous Gale (Plague+Slow II) has been his highest damaging TP move, but is still very far from dangerous with a WHM who's quick at their job. Overall though, it's pretty straightforward; no Gorge, no Disgorge, no Extreme Purgitation; only absorbs damage during TP moves and not during spells.

[Julian]

Personally for Ulhu, if he drains important stuff like str or dex, I'd just turn to stop feeding it tp until it wears, because from my experience most of the time when I just keep hitting it he'll just use it again, and makes it really annoying.

Try it yourself, pick what you like best, either way it shouldn't make much of a difference. I personally prefer to /nin here but again, doesn't matter much. (I want +2's so procs help, too >.>)

[Cream Soda]

Alright, thanks. How bad is his "spam" anyways? Auspice caps my subtle blow and the whole agi/tp fed thing, can't see it tp'ing that much if i'm the only one swinging at it (would have thf just do SA and TA and gtfo till timers are up again.)

[Naratu]

I never said manaburning Ulhuadshi is the only way to kill it, for the record. It's just a lot easier. And yeah, he probably won't spam much if you're the only one on it.

[Avarice]

Solo MNK with an occasional love tap from a THF and he didn't use TP moves more than any other regular mob, though his AI generally follows a "Spell > TP" or "TP > Spell" path; spammy may have been misleading, I really just meant it depends on how much the random number generator likes to pick Psyche Suction for his TP move.

[zephr]

This thread is quickly becoming the substitute for the Salvage drop thread. =)

[fredjanx]

AV?

derp, never did AV, so that slipped my mind. D:
similar case with DL, though, ironically, DL is the only of the four that is relevant.

[Kegsay]

Did Ulhua trivially 4 times as BLU WHM BLM RNG, even with me spell spamming on BLU, TP moves were kinda meh with a mdb/mdt set. Psyche Drain or whatever was the biggest worry, since it really cripples the ability to deal damage and therefore hold hate. Can't remove the down stats either, and takes roughly 1 min to wear. I ended up just doing self buffs/enfeebs like A.Burst to hold hate for this time.

As an aside, has anyone noticed some weird -damage taken% on Ulhua as hp decreases, similar to Ovni? It's not as extreme as Ovni mind, but my spells which usually take 2% HP in the 90s% bearly take off 1% further down in the 10s%.

[Rehn]

Did Ulhua trivially 4 times as BLU WHM BLM RNG, even with me spell spamming on BLU, TP moves were kinda meh with a mdb/mdt set. Psyche Drain or whatever was the biggest worry, since it really cripples the ability to deal damage and therefore hold hate. Can't remove the down stats either, and takes roughly 1 min to wear. I ended up just doing self buffs/enfeebs like A.Burst to hold hate for this time.

As an aside, has anyone noticed some weird -damage taken% on Ulhua as hp decreases, similar to Ovni? It's not as extreme as Ovni mind, but my spells which usually take 2% HP in the 90s% bearly take off 1% further down in the 10s%.

I remembered something odd like this happening at lv85 cap when I was lowmanning. About 15 min in my damage and acc dropped (this is with pizza) and it became a bit harder to damage it. Never noticed it at 90 though since it typically dies under 5 min for me now.

[Aurara]

As an aside, has anyone noticed some weird -damage taken% on Ulhua as hp decreases, similar to Ovni? It's not as extreme as Ovni mind, but my spells which usually take 2% HP in the 90s% bearly take off 1% further down in the 10s%.

He doesnt get any -dmg taken lol. Its jusy Psyche Suction. if it drains your DEX/STR they go down to nothing, making it seem like it gets -dmg taken when it really doesnt.

[Kirschy]

He doesnt get any -dmg taken lol. Its jusy Psyche Suction. if it drains your DEX/STR they go down to nothing, making it seem like it gets -dmg taken when it really doesnt.

It does appear to get def/eva boost as it's HP goes down. I can break 5k WS at the start easy, but I never get those highs at the end. This is aside from Suction which just sucks.

[Aurara]

Maybe its because i always was whm or brd, so i might not have noticed it. only went off what my melees said.

[Tribe]

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CartoucheLS on Phoenix, First stage was basically Duo/trio'd Then he actually did 90% of second stage in pick-ups. Huge thank you to Homingmissles who was also a big support for Aeyliea in finishing there bow! ( well 85'ing it. )