Final Form Magian Weapons

**Neisan** · 2011-01-12 20:12

Was with RR/VV/Apoc, Tactical Mantle during TP phase for 5 hit Ukon assuming no ticks of VV (should remove it tbh) if it makes any difference. Doubt I'm forgetting critical attack bonus since SS does practically nothing when equipped due to critical attack bonus being nearly capped from Af3+2 Feet and Cavaros.
Ah, see the issue, that was attack during WS.

**Cybaster** · 2011-01-12 20:14

I've wondered about that 60% mod too with Rudra's Storm. I checked gobli and the mod is 60% dex with 3.25 ftp, albeit in question mark. Comparing the number I had, I have one instance of number where it out damages the theoretical 60/3.25 by 3 damage, but the rest of the number tests are pretty close, it warrants some retesting.

**Atoreis** · 2011-01-12 22:58

Originally Posted by Mercilessturtle

For war bodies: none of the bodies in question are relevant for TPing, they don't have store tp. It is purely a WS question. 735 to 832 from berserk doesn't make any sense, you'd be over 900 with berserk up. What atmas are you assuming, and are you forgetting some crit damage bonus or anything like that? In the very low attack case of 680, you are looking at +1 base damage from WSC, and like ~0.02 pdif from attack for ebody, vs 2% crit rate for perle. With 45-48% +crit damage, the crit rate comes out ahead easily.

Isnt 2% crit rate maximum of 0.02 boost to pdif?
Crit will boost pDIF by max +1 if pDIF is below 2.15 yes? 2% chance for this boost can be calculated as 2% of this boost which is 0.02. How exactly then 0.02 wins with 0.02 and 1wsc? Unless im doing something wrong here. nvm 50% boost to crit dmg 5 am im going sleep lol.

If we are on this topic.. whats the max pDIF for 1h and 2h weapons now w/o crit?

**Scrooge** · 2011-01-13 00:56

Originally Posted by Atoreis

Crit will boost pDIF by max +1 if pDIF is below 2.15 yes?

Not precisely. Crit is pDIFa+1, capped @3. This value is then multiplied by a random value of 1.0-1.05. Which is why you see the range of 3.00-3.15 from.

**Andradi** · 2011-01-13 01:17

Originally Posted by Yugl

"Now everyone except Yugl has an Empyrean weapon, but fuck spending life in Tahrongi for the lame DRG weapon" said the Yugl.

Do the mythic, that one's actually good for DRG.

**Tortalius** · 2011-01-13 01:23

Cockatrice in Tahrongi get sa random boost effect, perhaps this one can do the same?

**Darkmagi** · 2011-01-13 01:27

Tahronghi one is based on being petrified, no?

**Tortalius** · 2011-01-13 01:28

no. I've def. had it hit me for 900 randomly without warning...at least i'm pretty sure i have.

**Roundelk** · 2011-01-13 01:35

What's a good CDC setup for BLU? I'm pretty sure I could do better with mine but would like to see what to aim for.

**Nightfyre** · 2011-01-13 03:02

Originally Posted by Roundelk

What's a good CDC setup for BLU? I'm pretty sure I could do better with mine but would like to see what to aim for.

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/140349

**Yugl** · 2011-01-13 10:17

Originally Posted by Andradi

Do the mythic, that one's actually good for DRG.

"Sure, I like painful" said the Yugl. Joking aside though, that is painful to complete in this environment.

**Odin'sLaw** · 2011-01-13 10:51

Originally Posted by Yugl

"Sure, I like painful" said the Yugl. Joking aside though, that is painful to complete in this environment.

it was painful to start with I'd think masochistic wouldn't be far off thinking about doing it now

**FailureMidgard** · 2011-01-13 14:28

Eh, the only difference is it's harder to find/buy Alexandrite. Other than that, it's all easier, and 3person salvage entry (as well as better gear, 90, etc) makes it a lot easier to go in and farm (solo even, only need 2 warpers). Cost is still lower than a relic if you buy it all though...it really depends how many / if others on your server are buying Alexandrite in the end, the demand is pretty low, as is the supply, but I'd almost rather be doing a mythic now than in the past. Now is definitely preferred to 3-4 months ago.

**Yugl** · 2011-01-13 14:50

The alexandrite is the main problem I see. I don't think I've seen any in a while and our rolanmart is dead.

Edit: Why the hell does this RDM have all +2s except the hat?

**Fievel** · 2011-01-13 15:15

Titlacauan is hard bro

**Michelob** · 2011-01-13 18:11

I'm still thinking that salvage will be altered to become relevant once again since alexandrite only has one source.

**Fievel** · 2011-01-13 19:11

Originally Posted by Michelob

I'm still thinking that salvage will be altered to become relevant once again since alexandrite only has one source.

They'll probably continue to lower the entrance requirements. In the end it'll be 0 or 100 AP to enter and can enter solo, that's all I really see happening.

**Shenrien** · 2011-01-13 19:13

Alexandrite is in high demand on Ragnarok it seems cant seem to keep the shit in my bazaar longer then 5 minutes once I hit port jeuno, and I'm sitting on it at 5k/piece usually getting 20-25pieces a person depending on the zone, and how many singles drop ect. :s surprised this isn't the case with every server, such easy money for very little work.

**FailureMidgard** · 2011-01-13 19:24

Originally Posted by Shenrien

Alexandrite is in high demand on Ragnarok it seems cant seem to keep the shit in my bazaar longer then 5 minutes once I hit port jeuno, and I'm sitting on it at 5k/piece usually getting 20-25pieces a person depending on the zone, and how many singles drop ect. :s surprised this isn't the case with every server, such easy money for very little work.

100-120k in an hr isn't exactly good gil...

**Fievel** · 2011-01-13 19:28

Said easy for little work, never said good.

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