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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihina View Post
    Well since everyone else is doing it, I might as well too.

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    My apologies, not enough posts here either. I got both of them at their base level 6 days ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirschy View Post
    That explains a lot. Anyway you can run one more test with the initial stats posted with Sekka for a pure 100tp WS. I have a feeling it'll be exactly 592.
    Sadly no >.>

    Sekka
    555
    555
    555 (tested 3 times!)

    160 TP (+40 from Fencer) = 200 TP
    747

    260 TP (+40 from Fencer) = 300 TP
    888

    All done naked+axe, same as before.

    Edit:
    +15 stats with Sekka
    596

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sehrahin View Post
    Sadly no >.>

    Sekka
    555
    555
    555 (tested 3 times!)

    160 TP (+40 from Fencer) = 200 TP
    747

    260 TP (+40 from Fencer) = 300 TP
    888

    All done naked+axe, same as before.

    Edit:
    +15 stats with Sekka
    596
    Doing some napkin math, the numbers seem to come out nicely if you assume the calculation has no second term.

    3.75 fTP @ 100tp
    6.0 fTP @ 300tp

    Using the same mods as before:

    3.75 * (90 + 2 + 56) = 555

    5.05 * (90 + 2 + 56) = 747 (Yea this isn't nice.)

    6 * (90 + 2 + 56) = 888

    Using the +15 stats gives you WSC of 67 as per my earlier post:

    3.75 * (90 + 2 + 67) = 596 which confirms your value.

    My guess is that 200TP is 5.0 ftp, and that the 10th of a tp brought it to the next tier of 5.05, but I can't keep blaming it =p. The calculations seem more precise though. Future tests would need to be run at 300TP and Sekk @ 100tp to eliminate that aspect, but calculation seem good now~

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    Ok I did this:

    Got 300 TP, rested 14 ticks to lose 140 TP.

    160 TP left, 40 from Fencer.

    746 damage.

    Unless fencer TP bonus isn't 40 then it should be accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sehrahin View Post
    Ok I did this:

    Got 300 TP, rested 14 ticks to lose 140 TP.

    160 TP left, 40 from Fencer.

    746 damage.

    Unless fencer TP bonus isn't 40 then it should be accurate.
    5.0 * (90 + 2 + 56) = 740. So either the formula is wrong, 200tp has a weird ftp, or something else . It's close estimation, but not perfect

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    Ok redid test with WAR/nin with offhand weapon to get rid of fencer, adding an omega ring to get same MND as /sam (STR was same).
    So same base stats, 300 TP > rest 10 ticks > 200 TP

    740 Cloudsplitter.

    Fencer must give more than 40 TP over 100?

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    Can I be cool too? Finished five days ago but couldn't be arsed posting.



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    Back? Neck (If that's a PCC...)? What the hell waffles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sehrahin View Post
    Ok redid test with WAR/nin with offhand weapon to get rid of fencer, adding an omega ring to get same MND as /sam (STR was same).
    So same base stats, 300 TP > rest 10 ticks > 200 TP

    740 Cloudsplitter.

    Fencer must give more than 40 TP over 100?
    Seems like it. And that means Cloudsplitter is a completely new type of Elemental WS with no second term. Your base damage varies only on your own stats. (Aside from damage taken stuffs.) Cool stuffs!

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    Did some 100TP Rudra's at a different DEX value. It's definitely a 60% DEX mod, which changes things a little.

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    Last note unless I notice something else later:

    Cloudsplitter > Cloudsplitter = Darkness
    Mistral Axe > Cloudsplitter = Light

    Darkness/Fragmentation property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    Back? Neck (If that's a PCC...)? What the hell waffles.
    In the process. Hardly played at all since Scars came out before mid-December, after which my effort went into Vereth and other miscellaneous things for WHM and RDM. Had a lot of catching up to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyriu View Post
    cuz my real gear sux
    grats betch

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    2nd Empy after Kannagi /cheer Almace next

    EDIT: oh yeah I really havent planned to finish it exactly today at my bday :D

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    Grats and good stuff; you're going to has some dilemmas on which jobs you wanna play now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
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    2nd Empy after Kannagi /cheer Almace next

    EDIT: oh yeah I really havent planned to finish it exactly today at my bday :D
    your a bad galka share the wealth :/ lol grats on your turkeys big bad galka

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidnoftle View Post
    Grats and good stuff; you're going to has some dilemmas on which jobs you wanna play now!
    Whenever I will need red !! I will go NIN and If I will need blue !! or just wont need red !! I will go MNK :D Btw both weapon were made duo with my friend 2boxing whm+brd. He got Masamune and we working on his Ukon now. Tahrongi is not fun but I think we doing it best way which is cap amber then go do NMs. In Thursday we started farm at 8 am and ended at 2 am Friday and we got 21 chloris's buds and 5 glavoid's shells so I think it was pretty fast. Fangs were much faster tho from 24 to 50 yesterday in like 9h but there was a lot x2.

    Thx for gratz

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    1. cleave tahrongi
    2. get KI
    3. if u get the other set which u dont want(glavoid/chloris) trade with other people's chlorid/glavoid
    4. ???
    5. tahrongi empy done in 2 days

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    It will take me a while to really nail it down, but I think 300TP Rudra's is somewhere around 5.35 to 5.4 fTP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars View Post
    1. cleave tahrongi
    2. get KI
    3. if u get the other set which u dont want(glavoid/chloris) trade with other people's chlorid/glavoid
    4. ???
    5. tahrongi empy done in 2 days
    except you didnt give me your glavoids after u finished chloris you bastard!

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