Final Form Magian Weapons

[Fievel]

I do the same

Yeah sunburst is counted as light only, so dark is Ei, Energy Drain, or Shadow of death only

[Nameless]

You can try Drk/mnk with counterstance and the two counter atmas. It is basically the same thing as a Mnk not subbing nin, that you are only vulnerable against one shot TP move. I have been using it in abyssea and it works pretty nicely.

[Obsidian]

Roaring Laughter/Gnarled Horn/?

That looks pretty far from ideal to me (and you're still 15% behind MNK before counter+ gear).

[Guitarman]

in agreement with arthars here, DRK cant tank for shit. 2 stuns is very nice, and DEF isn't awful as people used to say it is, but without better defensive tools it's never going to be a replacement for nin/mnk. arthars did you try using mounted champion atma for the VIT? If 2.1k is the best you've done i might pass on caladbolg :/

[Obsidian]

I've seen better numbers than that. You probably shouldn't pin your opinions on the lackluster results of one person.

Edit: Typo.

[Kyata]

Saw a JP Taru DRK's Bazaar message saying his Torcleaver max is ~7800 with WoE GS.
For all I know it could be against a DC casting Murex while fully buffed or something, but just relaying what he's claiming.

[Guitarman]

I've seen better numbers than that. You probably should pin your opinions on the lackluster results of one person.

I know, that's why i asked about the atma. Wanted to get all the facts before i discounted the weapon altogether.

[Fievel]

He also said his GS skill is pretty far from capped

[Obsidian]

You ought to be asking about weaponskill gear, not if he's using a VIT atma, and you should probably get facts from a few people instead of trusting the guy whose GSWD skill isn't even capped.

[Fievel]

You ought to be asking about weaponskill gear, not if he's using a VIT atma, and you should probably get facts from a few people instead of trusting the guy whose GSWD skill isn't even capped.

Arthars is a good guy and I'm sure he'll comment on all of it O:

[muhn]

Wait wut? you were killing glavoid same amount of time that other ppl were farming minhacao + adze + eft + Cock + tefenet + manticora? Seriously? I was killing Glavoid like 2-6min depends on buffs with NIN+WHM+BRD so you either killing glavoid with some very slow fail mathod or you have some really pro fast method for KI nms.

Should have clarified that we are getting KI out of chest while they farmed us items to pop the KI NM's

[Arthars]

yea my GS skill is 100 away from cap LOL so thats about 100 att and shitload of acc missing....

i didnt eat any food as well for skill up and mobs i hit varies from detectors to marids to buffalos including some shivas(helping friend to get colorless souls) and a couple of buffalo NM for friends NIN hand seal. I kinda miss alot of WS on detectors cos they are IT at the point of time (damn 1 hti WS -_-)

average for the entire 3 hours of skill up is about 2.1k torcleaver, which really isnt bad at all for my case. I will run a extensive specific mob parse when i manage to cap this shit...gained 30 levels so im still a long way away to cap ;(

even my scythe is 24 skill off the cap....so hard to skill up sigh. hope mid feb patch work wonders

as for WS gears, im using:

input /equip legs "Bale flanchard +2" (looking for good VIT legs to outdo the mad str and att this gives)
input /equip head "Twilight Helm" (best i can find, most str and vit a piece can offer)
input /equip Hands "Perle Moufles" (lol best i can find too for now)
input /equip Feet "Bale Sollerets +2" (9 str can be easily replacable as well, looking for vit feet)
input /equip Body "Twilight Mail" (best i can find, most str and vit a piece can offer)
input /equip Ear2 "Brutal Earring" (this shit sucks, i need to get a vit earring lol DA torcleaver only gives extra like 200 damage)
input /equip Neck "Breeze Gorget"
input /equip Ring1 "Spiral Ring" (best i can find, most str and vit a piece can offer)
input /equip Waist "Breeze Belt"
input /equip Ring2 "Rajas Ring" (just to keep some STP on and str a 6-7 vit ring is prolly better i bet)
input /equip Ear1 "Bale Earring" (go for vit earring maybe?)
input /equip Back "Atheling Mantle" (this shit sucks too lol like brutal DA dont do shit, i may find a vit piece)
input /equip Ammo "Fire Bomblet" (im sure a bibiki seashell is better)

above gears is what i use for catastrophe lol(except for neck and waist) and they have decent dex and acc so i dont miss much on WS as i am skilling up. ALot of gears can be work on but like i said for now, 2.1k average with the above skillup gear and being severly under-skilled sounds pretty decent to me

because im still not capped, i havent really buy the desired vit gears that dont compromise too much STR. Dont wanna hurt my bag space just yet >_<

2H WS ALOT more than 1H. and the double damage crit is insane i can tell yer ^^

[Obsidian]

yea my GS skill is 100 away from cap LOL so thats about 100 att and shitload of acc missing....

i didnt eat any food as well for skill up and mobs i hit varies from detectors to marids to buffalos including some shivas(helping friend to get colorless souls) and a couple of buffalo NM for friends NIN hand seal. I kinda miss alot of WS on detectors cos they are IT at the point of time (damn 1 hti WS -_-)

average for the entire 3 hours of skill up is about 2.1k torcleaver, which really isnt bad at all for my case. I will run a extensive specific mob parse when i manage to cap this shit...gained 30 levels so im still a long way away to cap ;(

even my scythe is 24 skill off the cap....so hard to skill up sigh. hope mid feb patch work wonders

as for WS gears, im using:

input /equip legs "Bale flanchard +2" (looking for good VIT legs to outdo the mad str and att this gives)
input /equip head "Twilight Helm" (best i can find, most str and vit a piece can offer)
input /equip Hands "Perle Moufles" (lol best i can find too for now)
input /equip Feet "Bale Sollerets +2" (9 str can be easily replacable as well, looking for vit feet)
input /equip Body "Twilight Mail" (best i can find, most str and vit a piece can offer)
input /equip Ear2 "Brutal Earring" (this shit sucks, i need to get a vit earring lol DA torcleaver only gives extra like 200 damage)
input /equip Neck "Breeze Gorget"
input /equip Ring1 "Spiral Ring" (best i can find, most str and vit a piece can offer)
input /equip Waist "Breeze Belt"
input /equip Ring2 "Rajas Ring" (just to keep some STP on and str a 6-7 vit ring is prolly better i bet)
input /equip Ear1 "Bale Earring" (go for vit earring maybe?)
input /equip Back "Atheling Mantle" (this shit sucks too lol like brutal DA dont do shit, i may find a vit piece)
input /equip Ammo "Fire Bomblet" (im sure a bibiki seashell is better)

above gears is what i use for catastrophe lol(except for neck and waist) and they have decent dex and acc so i dont miss much on WS as i am skilling up. ALot of gears can be work on but like i said for now, 2.1k average with the above skillup gear and being severly under-skilled sounds pretty decent to me

because im still not capped, i havent really buy the desired vit gears that dont compromise too much STR. Dont wanna hurt my bag space just yet >_<

2H WS ALOT more than 1H. and the double damage crit is insane i can tell yer ^^

Case in point.

Breeze does nothing for Torcleaver. Light/Distortion, so Snow/Aqua. Also pretty sure stacking STR is doing almost nothing for you since you should already be fSTR capped and I doubt DRK has many issues with capping attack (when your skill is capped...). Dunno DRK gear well but there are a lot of VIT options out there.

Edit: Apparently DRK hands are pretty shit for VIT options. If you really want STR put Heafoc there and drop STR elsewhere for more VIT.

[Arthars]

breeze is not part of light? maybe i forgot they only count lvl 2 SC properties

guess i'll use snow gorget/belt instead. got them but just lazy to take them out haha

yea i will look into serious vit gear only when i cap the skill. right now im more bothered with the bullshit slow skill ups :\ 305 now and its crazily mad slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

my main point is, torcleaver is not that shitty even tho its not a crit WS haha will be real excited to see it when i cap skill and get the right vit gears

Dunno DRK gear well but there are a lot of VIT options out there.

not really ;( there isnt much VIT leg, feet, earring and back out there. best vit legs hands and feet i can find is perle legs, ares hands and feet. cant really find a back piece

[Iremire]

This guy helped me for the Afflictors. They just allianced us and told us to kill and take gems they really just wanted the afflictors.

Spoiler: show

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/3...0126122542.png

[Andradi]

not really ;( there isnt much VIT leg, feet, earring and back out there. best vit legs hands and feet i can find is perle legs, ares hands and feet. cant really find a back piece

Vampire Earring is pretty fucking sweet when it's active.

[Fievel]

This guy helped me for the Afflictors. They just allianced us and told us to kill and take gems they really just wanted the afflictors.

Spoiler: show

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/3...0126122542.png

Fuck yeah afflictors....?

[Iremire]

something about malicite saying he'd get people to help him on carabosse for the afflictors lol

[Fievel]

something about malicite saying he'd get people to help him on carabosse for the afflictors lol

I was going to bring that up, but I made two posts yesterday bashing Malacite and I didn't want to get repetitive.

[vagus]

Fuck yeah afflictors....?

Friend and I have been sharing gems. We don't hardcore it and do carabosse an entire sitting like others. But we do shout for people and people still want these weapons. Not for damage i don't think, just for the looks.

5 Gems away and i'm being cock blocked by VNM's. Whoever decided to put VNM's into magian needs to drink acid.