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    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo View Post
    Calling bullshit on 95% crit rate during Ukko's with just RR. From experience, MS increases the damage by a fair amount and I've had many weaponskills that suggested I didn't crit a single time. I know that's still possible with a 95% crit rate, but yeah.
    I dunno, most of the stuff on that site looks to be almost too detailed to be wrong. Like they stated that Kasha is a 25% ratio bonus and 25% ignore defense. I have no idea how they got that but it seems to be almost too detailed to be wrong. I wouldn't trust it 100% obviously, but I would test it with that in mind if I have the WS.

    Also, who knows if the bonus only applies to the first hit. I don't think it is possible for him to test the subsequent hits. It could just be that the first hit gets the bonus and subsequent hits can critical but no bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    I dunno, most of the stuff on that site looks to be almost too detailed to be wrong.
    That's up there with the worst reasons I've ever heard for believing something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsidian View Post
    That's up there with the worst reasons I've ever heard for believing something.
    Not if you know 95% of the things already and the 5% to be something you don't know but in detail. Have you even read the link or are you just trying to sound smart?

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    Something interesting I picked up from that site:

    One hand multi hit WS that can critical: 7% fixed critical rate bonus
    Drakesbane: 10% fixed rate bonus
    Raging Rush, Skewer: 15% fixed rate bonus
    Two hand weapon 1 hit WS that can critical: 33% fixed rate bonus
    True Strike: 100% critical

    7% 片手多段系(迅、ランペ等)
    10% 雲蒸竜変
    15% レイグラ、スキュアー
    33% 両手単発系(キーンエッジ、ボ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    One hand multi hit WS that can critical: 7% fixed critical rate bonus
    Atma of the Dark Depths was always useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    Sorry for the multiple posts, but this is the link of the best compilation of all the info. A lot that we don't know about it seems. Drakesbane seems to give a 10% fixed critical hit rate, and has a hidden 18.75% ratio bonus. The site pretty much has a layout of all the WS with ratio bonus and how much % is the bonus, and all the WS of all the critical hit bonus.

    http://www7b.biglobe.ne.jp/~fit/dmg/top.htm

    You have to click on that [更新履歴] thing to see more info.


    Again, in JP, but I hope someone who understands it fully can translate. I can read about 50% of it only.
    Drakesbane is supposed to vary crit rate with TP, I'm suspicious of it being a flat +10% as that would mean TP does literally *nothing* for the WS.

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    The sample size they'd need to differentiate between 7, 10, and 15% makes me highly suspicious of their results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo View Post
    Calling bullshit on 95% crit rate during Ukko's with just RR. From experience, MS increases the damage by a fair amount and I've had many weaponskills that suggested I didn't crit a single time. I know that's still possible with a 95% crit rate, but yeah.
    same here. I only just got my ukon, but I've definitely seem enough clear non-crit ukko's to doubt 95%. I'd like to believe, but I don't read enough jp to understand what they did to test. :/

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    Grats, Hyriu was saying that he was helping with the Ukon. How long approximately did it end up taking you guys?

    P.S. Nice pink and white armor to go with the Emps, lol. Betting that'll drive someone bananas.
    ty the four of us are full-time students, and we did this one after our winter break. it probably took a week of actual time, but it got spread out because of midterms, social lives, etc.

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    LGM, good for running through people, horrible for screen shots.

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    Shoulda /names!! But grats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    LGM, good for running through people, horrible for screen shots.
    More like N64: Good for playing. Bad for screen shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    More like N64: Good for playing. Bad for screen shots.
    mario cart can be as ugly as fuck but hands down the best party game!!

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    You mean GoldenEye before everyone had the Golden gun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    You mean GoldenEye before everyone had the Golden gun?
    damn, that's a tough call!

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    I will always stand by my opinion that grenade launchers in the temple with the huge open floors that have those big holes in them is the best.

    That- and power weapons in the stack. Gogo shotgun and RPC-90.

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