Final Form Magian Weapons

[Mojo]

On Alfard:

Does he always turn to face after a while or does it purely have to do with positioning? Had a fight where he'd just stick to using tail and then another where he'd do a few tails then turn around to say hello with nerve gas.

It's annoying having to run him around until he decides to drop the aura curse so yea..

I believe there is some weird kind of hate reset that causes this. I never had any problems soloing, but sometimes when I had a WHM there or whatever it would randomly come for them and then double bulwark or whatever other gayness it felt like dishing out.

[Colenzo]

WARNING: Disturbing image ahead!

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Had to do a bunny sacrifice for getting this! (Yes, being nekkid was a requirement)

http://www.imoqland.com/images/Elvaa...Wildrabbit.jpg

It's just level 85 too.

BIG thanks to Haggen, Littlevegeta, Vaudrek, Norym, Poseidonmx and the rest of Chilakillers! :D

wow you got through those sobeks fast

[Greatguardian]

On Alfard:

Does he always turn to face after a while or does it purely have to do with positioning? Had a fight where he'd just stick to using tail and then another where he'd do a few tails then turn around to say hello with nerve gas.

It's annoying having to run him around until he decides to drop the aura curse so yea..

As it's been mentioned, the knockback from Serpentine Tail can be a pain. It tended to knock me out of his attack range, causing him to turn and face me the first couple times I fought him. To avoid this, I walked him over a small ledge near 08, turned, and ran behind him so that Serp Tail wasn't able to push me anywhere (it would just push me into the ledge). Never had any problems with him turning or using different TP moves after that. If it's not a case of being knocked out of range, it's possible someone not on the tail grabbed hate for a short time, which would trigger turning.

[Imoq]

wow you got through those sobeks fast

Yeah, had 15 skins saved beforehand and lured^H^H^H^H^H got help from LS people mentioned for their several +2 pants to get the rest .

Oh! I forgot to mention Devilssaint gave me one extra skin he got on his last Sobek kill. I also forgot to mention that Lokodi's LS (you were there, right, Colenzo?) was kind enough last week to team up for my last Briareus kill, since several groups were there on weekend and it would had been a LOOONG wait otherwise.

I also forgot to mention this: FUCK YOU, GUKUMATZ!

That's all

[The Blackrose]

wow you got through those sobeks fast

Briareus/Sobek is the easiest Empy path by far, as long as you have shit on lockdown. Once multiple groups enter the fray, that's when shit hits the fan.

[lolwut]

those handful of monsters are all it matters at this stage of the game. Apademak, isgebind, dragua, azdaja etc.....

The only things that matter are the things that have value to farm. I wouldn't necessarily say any of those fit the bill for me except Dragua, which my group needs to finish their Verethragna. Otherwise it's easier and more efficient to make money for time spent selling goading belts, Orthrus/Reseph stones, junk like that. Apademak, Dragua, and Azdaja don't drop good sellables, and most anyone farming Apademak has a Kannagi Nin.

In the case of Dragua, Mnk/War doesn't have any considerable advantage over War/Sam on it. It doesn't attack especially hard or fast, the only real threats are the tp moves and spells, which come down to the attentiveness of the mages and the quality of your -dt sets.

who the hell have problems cure bombing sobek ketea etc on any jobs anyway at lvl 90?

No one, which is why I said they shouldn't be on the list. Try to keep up.

[Imoq]

Briareus/Sobek is the easiest Empy path by far, as long as you have shit on lockdown. Once multiple groups enter the fray, that's when shit hits the fan.

... which was ALWAYS the case with Gukumatz. At least in Carby, never saw it unclaimed for more than a second :S

[Odin'sLaw]

Briareus/Sobek is the easiest Empy path by far, as long as you have shit on lockdown. Once multiple groups enter the fray, that's when shit hits the fan.

WRONG get your shit right Space fool, Cara/Croin is that frog isn't to heavily camped Gutz is a mother fucker to get even during the "quiet time"

[Darkmagi]

In my experience, Guku is probably by far the most heavily camped 85 empyrean NM.

[Thorny]

I've never seen less than 8-10 people camping gukumatz on leviathan excluding my characters, on a weekend I once counted 41 people there. Most of the others are up on occasion, and just chilling if you go during the 3-hour block jps are asleep.

[Classikmage]

In my experience, Guku is probably by far the most heavily camped 85 empyrean NM.

Amun would like to have a word with you. Every time I've been there, there is always a group camping him, if not a whole LS. And that's the "quiet time". When JP primetime hits expect multiple groups....

Amun's Aery sucks ass.

[Bling]

I duoed isgebind war/nin+rdm with minimal difficulty, considering my spellcast was broken at the time. just saying.

I never would have thought cure IV would be enough for him. What was your kill time usin' this setup and did you tail tank or stand on paw? I thought his agas got bigger/faster as his HP decreased but maybe it's based on fight duration? His aga IVs were hitting me for ~1.7k at low HP with like 48% MDT-. Took me between 15 or 20min each fight though with mnk/thf and whm/rdm depending how many times he terrored/roared off my counterstance etc.

[The Blackrose]

WRONG get your shit right Space fool, Cara/Croin is that frog isn't to heavily camped Gutz is a mother fucker to get even during the "quiet time"

http://sorrytown.us/images/224.jpg

Seriously though, since you decided to act the fool, let us begin.

Carabosse outedges Briareus in the KI department, but makes up for that in the fact that Briareus goes down like a blind old man. Not to mention if you're getting 7's out of the Mercurial Strikes, you can have many a 2 hour rampage on his sorry ass. And if you can't outrange Meikyo > at least 2 of the 3 Colossal Slam on a 1111, then stop farming now. Cara is an annoying, time-consuming pain in the ass unless you manage to knock her out pre-Bene.

Heqet vs. Gukumatz is a matter of who's going after what and is present in the zone. Your anecdotal bullshit can easily be countered with mine, since I've had my fair share of fights over Heqet as well. It's even more pronounced since everyone can stand out in the middle of frogs without a care for the world.

Sobek and Cirein are both easy. If you're having killing problems, I feel bad for you son, etc.

So next time, proceed to space fool yourself right off a cliff, you belligerent twat. If I want lip from you, I'll jingle my zipper.

[Thorny]

http://sorrytown.us/images/224.jpg

Seriously though, since you decided to act the fool, let us begin.

Carabosse outedges Briareus in the KI department, but makes up for that in the fact that Briareus goes down like a blind old man. Not to mention if you're getting 7's out of the Mercurial Strikes, you can have many a 2 hour rampage on his sorry ass. And if you can't outrange Meikyo > at least 2 of the 3 Colossal Slam on a 1111, then stop farming now. Cara is an annoying, time-consuming pain in the ass unless you manage to knock her out pre-Bene.

Heqet vs. Gukumatz is a matter of who's going after what and is present in the zone. Your anecdotal bullshit can easily be countered with mine, since I've had my fair share of fights over Heqet as well. It's even more pronounced since everyone can stand out in the middle of frogs without a care for the world.

Sobek and Cirein are both easy. If you're having killing problems, I feel bad for you son, etc.

So next time, proceed to space fool yourself right off a cliff, you belligerent twat. If I want lip from you, I'll jingle my zipper.

you're fucking stupid

if it takes 5 minutes per KI killing the mobs, you're looking at 15 min + ~8 min travel on briareus = 23 min per + 5 min per bria kill

for cara, you only need 2 KIs(10 min) and the walk is almost nonexistant, 2 min travel = 12 min per.. it doesn't take 16 min to kill cara, it doesn't even take 10

re:sobek/cirein.. sobek has easily twice the competition cirein does, and requires one more key item.. it's twice as time consuming

and don't even get me started on isgebind vs apademak, it's not even close, bria path is at least 50% longer than cara one

[Hyriu]

I've never seen less than 8-10 people camping gukumatz on leviathan excluding my characters, on a weekend I once counted 41 people there. Most of the others are up on occasion, and just chilling if you go during the 3-hour block jps are asleep.

I got super lucky while finishing my Kannagi, got my 29 remaining skins in 9hrs because there was no competition aside from a couple people every few hour who'd just claim it once then go away.

But the 21 one before that were hell, yeah. Fuck Gukumatz

[Thorny]

I got super lucky while finishing my Kannagi, got my 29 remaining skins in 9hrs because there was no competition aside from a couple people every few hour who'd just claim it once then go away.

But the 21 one before that were hell, yeah. Fuck Gukumatz

I finished mine while it was still 30-60 I think, or at least before everyone bandwagonned nin and comp got bad. Lately though, if I need to go there for someone's af3 mats or anything I expect to wait 3-4 pops per claim :/ Shit's terrible.

[Twixbars]

if it takes 5 minutes per KI killing the mobs, you're looking at 15 min + ~8 min travel on briareus = 23 min per + 5 min per bria kill

Holy hell, it takes you 5mins to kill Briareus?

[Atoreis]

Holy hell, it takes you 5mins to kill Briareus?

Some ppl like me kill Bria with Kannagi NIN + Ukon WAR and it takes like 1 min but other sometimes do it with just thf + whm and then it takes 5 min so dont be jerk and stop this bs.

[Kidnoftle]

Holy hell, it takes you 5mins to kill Briareus?

Holy hell, you don't understand arguments using conservative time frames to prove a point?

[Thorny]

I went with gimp estimates for both because it's blackrose talking shit. No, it doesn't take me personally 5 minutes ...

I've got 4.5 emps in materials(need shit NMs for ukon still), don't really think you know who I am :/