Final Form Magian Weapons

[Correction]

The glacial pace of Zilart-era gear progression is an artifact and was never stopping bad players from getting good gear. New players getting good gear rapidly strengthens a community with stagnant population growth. Saying it's 'far too low' is meaningless when you don't define what an acceptable interval of time would be, or justify why FFXI's player base should be stratified by whatever ideal you think should exist.

[Thorny]

It's not my place to choose what the ideal interval of time is, but I think most will agree it should be more than that of a console game.

[EjinCaitsith]

Don't know who Aldric is(if they renamed you're just being a retard not mentioning their real name), but my 2 month old galka has perfect equipment for WAR, capped merits, and ukon90. If nothing else, that guarantees a tie for best DD, which illustrates my point fine(and I don't think it's a tie either, any non-galka is inferior even if it's not a matter of player ability). If you really want to wave penises, can PM me.. just was commenting on how easy shit is now.

I'm fairly sure elvaan has more base str than galka. Shit, guess you have to redo 90 ukon and perfect gear on another char to have your "i'm the best" trophy.

[Kirschy]

I'm fairly sure elvaan has more base str than galka. Shit, guess you have to redo 90 ukon and perfect gear on another char to have your "i'm the best" trophy.

I imagine Thorny chose Galka for the signifigant HP bonus over the few STR =p

[EjinCaitsith]

I imagine Thorny chose Galka for the signifigant HP bonus over the few STR =p

I was just being a smart ass, because his comment was so smug. If you want to get technical, elvaan will still be the better DD, all the hp from galka adds is survivability.

[Yugl]

Don't forget the range us Elvaans have. We can kick the shit out of midgets in Tahrongi all the way from Bibiki bay. DHALMEL POWER.

[Thorny]

I was just being a smart ass, because his comment was so smug. If you want to get technical, elvaan will still be the better DD, all the hp from galka adds is survivability.

best dd is also nmsot survivable lol

ideal situation sglak war is best

[Kirschy]

I was just being a smart ass, because his comment was so smug. If you want to get technical, elvaan will still be the better DD, all the hp from galka adds is survivability.

Yea I was mostly just messing! The whole race debate isn't my thing!

[Rocl]

best dd is also nmsot survivable lol

ideal situation sglak war is best

what the hell happened here

[Tsuko_Asura]

Alcohol.

[DNAval]

I'd like share my input on Empys being easy, I read BG a lot i don't post much but what i can tell you guys is that there is a large population in FFXI that still doesn't have the means to finish an empy, i'd like to use my self as an example (recently) I became a father for the second time so I actually only get about 2-3 hours of consistent play time a day, that means this:

ninja head seals > 2 days to get 8 seals
ninja leg seals > 2 days to get the 8 seals
ninja feet > 2 weeks to get the drop from vunk.
ninja feet seals > 1 day to get 8 seals (got lucky)
ninja hand seals > 3 days due to no drop of nin seals ( damn that buffalo)
started the NM's for kannagi almost up to VNM's > 2 weeks to get there.

for a person in my position its almost impossible to do what was mentioned in previous pages about having a pimped out character in 2 weeks.
I just don't see how that's even humanly possible (again not saying its not but for a person under my circumstances its not).
and as far as i can see this applies to @ least 60% of the population of the game (speaking on behalf of my server don't know others).

sorry for the bad grammar holding baby and typing not my thing.

[Shenrien]

when you quad box a party your given more freedom to spam whatever you want without people bitching about you being a loot whore.

[Atoreis]

I'd like share my input on Empys being easy, I read BG a lot i don't post much but what i can tell you guys is that there is a large population in FFXI that still doesn't have the means to finish an empy, i'd like to use my self as an example (recently) I became a father for the second time so I actually only get about 2-3 hours of consistent play time a day, that means this:

ninja head seals > 2 days to get 8 seals
ninja leg seals > 2 days to get the 8 seals
ninja feet > 2 weeks to get the drop from vunk.
ninja feet seals > 1 day to get 8 seals (got lucky)
ninja hand seals > 3 days due to no drop of nin seals ( damn that buffalo)
started the NM's for kannagi almost up to VNM's > 2 weeks to get there.

for a person in my position its almost impossible to do what was mentioned in previous pages about having a pimped out character in 2 weeks.
I just don't see how that's even humanly possible (again not saying its not but for a person under my circumstances its not).
and as far as i can see this applies to @ least 60% of the population of the game (speaking on behalf of my server don't know others).

sorry for the bad grammar holding baby and typing not my thing.

Its actually funny cuz ppl like Thorny (thats not gonna be an offence to you Thorny) are saying that everything is very easy and fast and everyone can do it but at the same time they feel that they achieved more then 95% of players. They want to feel elite among players but at the same time they lower importance of they hard work. That paradox could be a good theme for some masterpiece from psychology.

Reality is that ppl like me or Thorny play more then we should (oh well that's another topic for psychology masterpiece. What ppl should do with their lives? Is playing any more meaningless thing then going out with ppl to club or party?) we are much better organized then 95% of players. We know what is crit do to pDIF, we know how the dmg is calculated, we know how hate works, we know that going bstx2 + whm to farm Carabosse is waste of time, we know that lvling right jobs for farm is shorter like 20 times then the time we waste not having them etc. etc. and so on. Casual players are even worse then Malacite (cuz he at least trying to catch some info from this forum for example). I sometimes help casual players and they have not even blind idea about this game. Best example I was in few altapa allys and I was one shooting dolls with everyone's grudge and went to mandys pulled them all and killed for TE at start and they were so shocked how is that possible when for me it was another cleave. Please dont overestimate casual players.

Now why I quoted what I quoted? I want to say best wish for a baby and good luck on getting your skill in using keyboard while holding a baby :D Setting a family is one of those things that brings probably a lot more hard moments then happy but its also probably one of the rare meaningful things to do in life.

[NynJa]

i'd like to use my self as an example (recently) I became a father for the second time so I actually only get about 2-3 hours of consistent play time a day

Ease of something is not only defined as by how long it takes to complete something, but by the amount of people it takes to complete with the amount of effort and overall difficulty and risk of failure.

The fact that practically EVERYONE has an empyrean in such a short time frame coupled with the fact abyssea is slept-walked via DD+WHM combos makes Empyrean piss easy.

[Lovex]

The game revolved around Fafnir/Nidhogg for so long. I can remember so many years back that was the IT thing for being the best.

Now its just complete opposite. Balance would be nice for a change but SE has never been good at that.

We can't have it both ways. Hardcore or WoWified.

I agree with thorny a lot but I also really enjoy the current state of the game. I do really miss competiting though and the excitment with HNM was amazing at a time.

SW/DI were rly fun too. Relics imo, were a toughy. I have both annhilator(stage4, 30/100) and gjallarhorn full upgraded

[Lovex]

also, why exactly is there a thread dedicated to emprean weapon progress? Not trying to be a bitch but, i rly believe anyone can do an empryean with little to no trouble. Someome completing an empyrean is rly unimpotant and not worthy.

You completed an empyrean? Grats I completed skadi legs last night.

[Lovex]

wasnt a troll post either. Just the final form magian weapons thread is alrdy half of the completed relics and mythics threads.

Speaks for itself.

[Anso]

The game revolved around Yagudo Avatar/Tzee Xicu for so long.

ftfy

[Afrohatch]

also, why exactly is there a thread dedicated to emprean weapon progress? Not trying to be a bitch but, i rly believe anyone can do an empryean with little to no trouble. Someome completing an empyrean is rly unimpotant and not worthy.

You completed an empyrean? Grats I completed skadi legs last night.

there was a salvage gear thread, and like that I expect this thread to run it's course.

[Rocl]

Also this thread was made before Empyrean weapons were even in the game, and focused more on the 75 magians for a good # of pages

Advanced is also much less moderated than before, where you could get banned and have posts all sorts of removed in those dumb relic threads, less likely to happen now

So we have a bunch of shit posts (like these last couple, starting with yours and including this one) which would have been gone before, in addition to all the other shit posts in here, inflating the page count of this thread vs the Relic thread where some try-hard brand-new mod would attempt to score brownie points by "cleaning" the thread regularly