Final Form Magian Weapons

[Bling]

Kinda guess but we know:
- set bonus and relic triple can proc on one normal hit
- relic can proc on Barrage
- rapid shot can proc on barrage

Even assuming that set bonus work same as relic on barrage (if it proc it triple all its) and assuming something around 20% rapid shot, 10% relic, 5% set we are looking at 0.1% so once per 1000 barrage and that would need to be done on something with 20k+ HP remaining and 9/9 hits to even have a proof of both can proc at one barrage. You could also check on mobs outside town till you get around 3600 non crit or 4500 crit barrage with 1 arrow. That would be a proof both can proc on one barrage but you still wouldn't know if set bonus proc double damage from whole barrage or separate hits.

EDIT: Oh and math for max damage is always easy: 3.75(pdif)*3(relic)*2(set)*9(hits)*200(base)*1.5(c rit bonus)

Have you used rng much in abyssea? I'm curious if barrage can even crit, I never noticed a huge increase in damage when using RR or not. Granted I have very little rng time logged in abyssea but it seems like it'd be really noticable with that atma. Maybe I'll to barrage some bunnies outside sandy to see if I can get a crit hit.

And with your max damage number, guess it's rough. What you put here is 60750. There's true shot and some rounding differences but I never get 62572. uess it doesn't matter since it'd prolly never happen; but would be cool as hell if it did XD

[Atoreis]

True shot is 3% (since you shoot in ASA legs not af3+2).

60750 * 1.03 = 62572 ^^

Barrage can crit but every hit is calculated separately. I tested this myself at capped att. Was doing 2 hit barrage till I got damage expected for crit+non crit.

[Bling]

Ahh that's it. Trueshot is actually 5% at 90 and +2 for pants.

That's cool to know that it can crit though. I saw you mentioned something that I read before somewhere; if relic proc hits then all hits that land will be 3x damage. I wonder if that's true if not all hits can crit like you say. Seems odd to have things calculated separately for crits and such and then collectively for relic proc.

[Gun-it]

I think the only thing worse then G-unit as a name is being Galkan.

its funny cause its not my name? lol

[jimbobsonofgod]

its funny cause its not my name? lol

And my name isn't J Imbo Bsono Fgod.

[Odin'sLaw]

And my name isn't Fgod.

well it should be Fgod! prick knows nothing, Gun-it to the G-unit its ok let your rap side out galkaman

[Atoreis]

Ahh that's it. Trueshot is actually 5% at 90 and +2 for pants.

That's cool to know that it can crit though. I saw you mentioned something that I read before somewhere; if relic proc hits then all hits that land will be 3x damage. I wonder if that's true if not all hits can crit like you say. Seems odd to have things calculated separately for crits and such and then collectively for relic proc.

Yes but barrage is weird. If you miss first hit you miss all of them. If relic proc on first hit all of them are triple. I'm 100% sure of that. Whenever I have seen or heard about relic proc on barrage it was always in range of 7-9k on 75lv and they were pretty common. If every hit would need to proc separately then it would be once per 10 000 000 barrages and I saw many ss with full triple barrage even few from one person ^^

[Atoreis]

Ahh that's it. Trueshot is actually 5% at 90 and +2 for pants.

That's cool to know that it can crit though. I saw you mentioned something that I read before somewhere; if relic proc hits then all hits that land will be 3x damage. I wonder if that's true if not all hits can crit like you say. Seems odd to have things calculated separately for crits and such and then collectively for relic proc.

Yes but barrage is weird. If you miss first hit you miss all of them. If relic proc on first hit all of them are triple. I'm 100% sure of that. Whenever I have seen or heard about relic proc on barrage it was always in range of 7-9k on 75lv and they were pretty common. If every hit would need to proc separately then it would be once per 10 000 000 barrages and I saw many ss with full triple barrage even few from one person ^^

[Sudox]

Huge congrats to my buddy Bryeen on 90 Verethragna! Pulled an all-nighter to get it done before the merge.

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[Arthars]

i just farmed 50 CC lantern for my gun(lol yea cant think of what to do next) incase heqet is massively overcamped on odin....

Many people rushed too i can see over the past few days O_O

i really hope it isnt that bad!! we'll find out tomorrow XD

[Fitch.]

i just farmed 50 CC lantern for my gun(lol yea cant think of what to do next) incase heqet is massively overcamped on odin....

Many people rushed too i can see over the past few days O_O

i really hope it isnt that bad!! we'll find out tomorrow XD

Our JP primetime on Odin is terrible. Around like 12 AM EST is when it gets super bad. JP here are no different than any other server, we're just mostly a JP dominant server. We hit like 1.8k people during NA, and then like 3.4k during JP primetime. We rushed to finished our THFs 85 Twashtar before Tunga's Aery gets worse than it already is.

[Arthars]

3.4k prime time is at least 1 times more than ifrits....

so we gotta hit 5.1k??!?!?! fuck that >_<

and tunga in ifrit is ALREADY as bad as it is in the time u mentioned

theres goes the empyrean collection dream!

[NynJa]

3.4k prime time is at least 1 times more than ifrits....

bet I get yet another temp ban for trolling...but seriously..."1 times more"?

[Taint]

They will gold box all KIs is my prediction.

[NynJa]

And everyone will cleave all areas for KI's and then this:

Player defeats the mob.
Player defeats the mob.
Player defeats the mob.
Player defeats the mob.
Player defeats the mob.
Player defeats the mob.
Player defeats the mob.
Player defeats the mob.
Player defeats the mob.
Player defeats the mob.
Player defeats the mob.
Player defeats the mob.
Player defeats the mob.
Player defeats the mob.
The monster was concealing a treasure chest!
(Player) gg SE...gg

Dont think they'll up the spawn count of Pyxis

While I do believe they'll add all KI's to boxes, like Visions areas, they should ditch some of the garbage drops. Top tier Gold shouldnt be loading with Elemental+3 Elemental-3 weapons, nor should they load with Wild Onions...

[Mafai]

And everyone will cleave all areas for KI's and then this:

Player defeats the mob.
Player defeats the mob.
Player defeats the mob.
Player defeats the mob.
Player defeats the mob.
Player defeats the mob.
Player defeats the mob.
Player defeats the mob.
Player defeats the mob.
Player defeats the mob.
Player defeats the mob.
Player defeats the mob.
Player defeats the mob.
Player defeats the mob.
The monster was concealing a treasure chest!
(Player) gg SE...gg

Yea, I see mules sitting at others peoples cleave camps calling when boxes depop...

[Alkimi]

Only bonus of being EU. Asura is one of the biggest servers at the moment but generally in our primetime the JPs have gone to bed (save for the hardcore ones who are up at 3-4 am) and NAs are still at work or whatever. There's still often competition but it's rarely like the 'Heqet/Gukumatz/Tunga's Aery' horror stories we often hear.

[Julian]

i just farmed 50 CC lantern for my gun(lol yea cant think of what to do next) incase heqet is massively overcamped on odin....

Many people rushed too i can see over the past few days O_O

i really hope it isnt that bad!! we'll find out tomorrow XD

It's shitty as fuck.

I tried to rush lanterns to finish my gun, but I failed pretty bad and still need like 30 more -_-

As mentioned, JP time is IMPOSSIBLE to do ANYTHING. Always 2200+ on weekdays, 2700+ on weekends.

After JP time, the population lowers down to 1000ish, but a ton of those people aren't afk. Empy NMs are somewhat crowded, it varies. Often times it's not, often times they are. It's been pleasant enough that I've been able to casually do 3 emps when there's little to no competition around, but it took a while to do. Competing vs this stuff is just such a waste of time, I don't like to even bother, I probably wont be seeing any more emps in my future, thanks SE :/

[Aurara]

Sounds like a hoot.

[Julian]

Oh, and be weary of our NA population, almost all of them are retards or incredibly stupid, especially the ones who shout in port jeuno all day like they own the place.

A group of like 12 of them showed up at cirein yesterday right after I finished getting 3 pops, and they were taking like 20min+ to kill the damn thing, so I just left -_-

(Although I'm sure this is probably similar in most servers these days)