Final Form Magian Weapons

[Atoreis]

How is a MNK soloing Altep iron giant?

If you referring to what Zag said then I ignored it because of 2 things:
"30 min faster" - That imply he was soloing it like 45 min so probably hit run away hit lol.
Showing example of Veret advantage over spharai on mob that you cant counter.. flawless.

[Atoreis]

ahhhhhhhhh wait a second, i got an idea

I will go to dynamis tomorrow and do a 50-55 min parse each(10-20 mins to get TE give and take) for blade metsu and blade hi

in the meantime, i will stick to this set of gears...

MetsuWS:
90 kikoku + kamome
input /equip legs "Usukane Hizayoroi"
input /equip Body "Iga Ningi +2"
input /equip head "Aias Bonnet"
input /equip Hands "Iga tekko +2"
input /equip Feet "Iga Kyahan +2"
input /equip Ear2 "Brutal Earring"
input /equip Neck "Breeze Gorget"
input /equip Ring1 "Strigoi Ring"
input /equip Waist "Cuchulain's Belt"
input /equip Ring2 "Rajas Ring"
input /equip Ear1 "Centaurus Earring"
input /equip Back "Atheling Mantle"
input /equip Ammo "Fire bomblet"

blade hi set:
90 kannagi + kamome
input /equip head "Maat's Cap";
input /equip feet "Lithe Boots";
input /equip legs "Ambusher's hose";
input /equip ring1 "Stormsoul Ring";
input /equip ring2 "Rajas Ring";
input /equip ear1 "Centaurus Earring";
input /equip neck "Hope Torque";
input /equip ammo "Qirmiz Tathlum";
input /equip body "Iga Ningi +2";
input /equip hands "Iga Tekko +2";
input /equip waist "Cuchulain's Belt";
input /equip ear2 "Brutal Earring";
input /equip back "Iga Dochugappa";

TP:
input /equip Ring1 "Epona's ring"
input /equip legs "Iga Hakama +2"
input /equip Head "Iga Zukin +2"
input /equip Hands "Iga Tekko +2"
input /equip Feet "Iga Kyahan +2"
input /equip Body "Iga Ningi +2"
input /equip Ear2 "Brutal Earring"
input /equip Neck "Ancient Torque"
input /equip Waist "Twilight Belt"
input /equip Ear1 "Suppanomimi"
input /equip Back "Atheling Mantle"
input /equip ammo "Fire Bomblet"
input /equip Ring2 "Rajas ring"

Mobs @my usual spot have THF SMN WHM RDM BLM WAR DRG

my merits: 8 katana, 5 crit 8 str hume

u post ur math's average damage for both WS and we see how close/off they are ok? especially metsu, Hi is just to double check ur math

i'll SS the parse and post here tmr. tell me what food i should eat to make this as accurate for you as possible

You wont be att capped against everything there, especially /dnc. Blade:hi require a lot more work to avg because it can crit and you fight a mobs with various agi I have no idea about your stats etc. I'm not gonna play your stupid games. I already told you that if you saying my math is wrong you should go test FH not me doing more work so you can do less lol.

[Arthars]

ur doing the math, while im doing the work fighting out there, and now your doing more work? how man?

so your saying all ur math are meant for perfect scenario's? must be cap att, etc etc

ic ic... so we all have to live in the perfect world your in then, which is the only place you can only derive your math

for the last time, my friend tested FH vs VS and parsed, he got BOTH weapons 90, and you dont, and ur claming your math is right?!

i need to dip my head in a bucket of ice, cos obviously your the only one thats right in your world

roger that, your playing a different game

btw idk how you assume im /dnc for a parse. i dont /dnc forever btw but that doesnt matter im not in ur league, ur the best

i only ignored 1 person ever in BG and i forgot who, but i definately know who is the 2nd.../facepalm

[Atoreis]

ur doing the math, while im doing the work fighting out there, and now your doing more work? how man?

so your saying all ur math are meant for perfect scenario's? must be cap att, etc etc

ic ic... so we all have to live in the perfect world your in then, which is the only place you can only derive your math

my friend tested FH, he got BOTH weapons 90, and you dont, and ur claming your math is right?!

i need to dip my head in a bucket of ice, cos obviously your the only one thats right in your world

roger that, your playing a different game

Seriously? I dont even..

No it doesn't need to be in perfect scenerio. It must be in static scenerio where you stats and mob's stats stays the same not varies.
Me doign the math for WS i dont care is me doing more work. All you work is hit the parse running and ss and post results ...
So now your friend tested and few hours ago he eyeballed so which one is it? If first then show me the proof.
Im not the only one thats right in this world but you can dip your head in that bucket anyway and perhaps leave it there.

[Arthars]

idk man, wtf did u get the eyeballing thingy for FH vs VS, i said he parsed

who eyeballed? what crack are you smoking?

or you mean i SAID he eyeballed a few hours back? wtf when?

and yea my head still in bucket, i felt like im reading official forum now

[Atoreis]

sorry i dont eyeball and already said he did, but if you refuse to face the fact, thats fine

get a spharai since your a career MNK and squeeze the awesome number out

seriously?

as for spharai, at least FH is better than asurian fist finally at lvl 90

That is even better You saying Asuran is worse when Asuran was avg 1400 with spharai at 75 at EP. It avg about 1900 now at 90...

[Byrthnoth]

Holy shit guys. Could not care less!

[Arthars]

and yes, he parsed, and he didnt use impetus in the parse session as obviously impetus favours VS and not FH and it would be an unfair parse to test how far apart are the WSs. Being such a ffxi math genius as you think you are, you can guess the WS difference between the 2 after impetus

Same math is showing it was around 1k avg on EP at 75. Is that inaccurate?

I have no other thing to say to you Arthars beside eyeballing is eyeballing. I am 99% sure you didn't even eyeballed it and just guessing it is not that high. Go to your friend with 90 Spharai and sacrifice this precious 2h of your life killing EP before you start arguing w/o any proofs.

sorry i dont eyeball and already said he did, but if you refuse to face the fact, thats fine

do not extract 1 quote as it doesnt reflect the entire context.

i said he did parse, but u said i eyeball and he should go test it out, so i said i dont eyeball and he already did(parse)

SERIOUSLY?!

http://mectradegroup.com/FFXI/ignore.JPG

i wish you brighter years ahead. somehow the other person i mention wasnt on list. guess shit is removed after bg migrated to new server.

Your no.1 then grats, all you always wanted is to be no.1

[Atoreis]

do not extract 1 quote as it doesnt reflect the entire context.

i said he did parse, but u said i eyeball and he should go test it out, so i said i dont eyeball and he already did(parse)

SERIOUSLY?!

So he parsed FH better then Asuran so what was his Asuran avg?

[Mafai]

do not extract 1 quote as it doesnt reflect the entire context.

i said he did parse, but u said i eyeball and he should go test it out, so i said i dont eyeball and he already did(parse)

SERIOUSLY?!

http://mectradegroup.com/FFXI/ignore.JPG

i wish you brighter years ahead. somehow the other person i mention wasnt on list. guess shit is removed after bg migrated to new server.

Your no.1 then grats, all you always wanted is to be no.1

go to sleep

[Arthars]

i cant man. 2 more hotpots....dont wanna run back to this stupid place again, fuck the doors.

meantime im pwning people with WE2011. 53W 6D 0L today fucking bitches

[Nameless]

So he parsed FH better then Asuran so what was his Asuran avg?

His friend parsed FH vs VS without impetus cuz his friend thinks it will favor VS too much. That's what I get from reading his posts. I am not sure why you think he has been eyeballing as he clearly said that his friend parsed. If you want him to post a SS of the parse, you will have to wait cuz his friend parsed, not him, and there is a good possibility that his friend is not reading this thread...

As for quoting things he said like "Sorry i dont eyeball and already said he did, but if you refuse to face the fact, thats fine", I am pretty sure he is missing the word "parse" after the 'he did" part. I am sure you are smart enough to fill in that blank as you should also be smart enough to realize that you are not dealing with a native speaker here... Anyway, that's just my take.

[Pendulum]

As for quoting things he said like "Sorry i dont eyeball and already said he did, but if you refuse to face the fact, thats fine", I am pretty sure he is missing the word "parse" after the 'he did" part. I am sure you are smart enough to fill in that blank

Its pretty obvious he missed the word 'parse' and I think its pretty hypocritical of Atoreis to be so obtuse about a typo after he got his inequalities wrong in another thread and told someone who picked up on it to stop being so dense.

[Atoreis]

The true is that Arthars have no idea about how much damage do Asuran how much do FH and how much do VS. He based his guessing on his Metsu vs Hi. I have no proof for that but I am 99% sure that is the case here.

I missed the word parse because

this post

im not saying the math part is wrong or the formula

im saying ur math and the formula may be right, but sadly relic WS NUMBERS doesnt work out like how it should be on paper

u will know what i mean when u get final heaven/blade metsu or infact almost all relic WS and you will be dissapointed

1900 on EP average outside abyssea for FH in situation where VS does 2000?!?!?!?? you wishhhhhhhhhhhMANNNNNNNNNN

even 1700 average is wayyyyyyyy wishful thinking

and yes, he parsed, and he didnt use impetus in the parse session as obviously impetus favours VS and not FH and it would be an unfair parse to test how far apart are the WSs. Being such a ffxi math genius as you think you are, you can guess the WS difference between the 2 after impetus

dynamis xarc EP

and yea, you are forgiven for the part you misunderstood 8% being 10%

finally failure/thorny have real weapons to support their tests, not imaginary weapon talks

last but not least, i dont hate you, if your facts are right, then they are right, but you are a douche, or in the making

arthars, out

was edited with bolded part 30 min later after he wrote it. There was no word about an parse before this EDIT. The edit was made 5:30 and there was several posts after it and then he posted "Sorry i dont eyeball and already said he did" 3 min later. First time I saw this edit was now after you both posted.


I doubt this parse even exist tho. He is struggling with facts all the time.

First he said Asuran is finally worse then FH on lvl 90 spharai
Then I said about avg 1900 FH on capped cratio
Then he said 1900 is a dream and his friend tested that its around 60% damage of Vsmite
I said 1900 might be around 60% avg Impetus Vsmite
He wrote even 1700 is to high and his friend parsed w/o impetus

Till this point he was manipulating the facts cant you see that? Why couldn't he simply say what was an avg for FH in this parse?

Finally I asked how could he say Asuran is worse but FH is below 1700. He couldn't find another lie for that and he has no parse at all. He has no idea how much FH really do and he decided to add me to ignore list because how I post makes me look like a douche already so it was easy way out.

[Deader2818]

And yet, not a single fuck was given that day.

[Indalecia]

Seriously, shut the fuck up.

[Arthars]

http://mectradegroup.com/FFXI/rep.JPG

lazy to explain as this parse prolly doesnt matter anymore or proof anything as friend is not in a perfect world

edit: he said he parsed with another friend that was testing kikoku/jin and kannagi/hi as well hope i can grab hold of that parse too (interested myself)

[Atoreis]

http://mectradegroup.com/FFXI/rep.JPG

lazy to explain as this parse prolly doesnt matter anymore or proof anything as friend is not in a perfect world

edit: he said he parsed with another friend that was testing kikoku/jin and kannagi/hi as well hope i can grab hold of that parse too (interested myself)

If you wanna say on this parse FH is 900 avg and highest is 1350 then this parse is full of fail. It is just impossible because it was higher at 75 lol. I was witness myself of Spharai mnk farming spiders outside of WG. He was w/o food so he wasn't even attack capped he was also Wsing in TP gear because the trial wasnt about killshots just WSing. He was doing 800+ w/o DA.

[Esvedium]

Seriously, shut the fuck up.

Fucking this.

[Tribe]

http://randomlydrawnstickfigurecomic...0/07/rdsc5.png
nsfw..


OBVIOUSLY guys FH > VS see my above parse.