Final Form Magian Weapons

[Arthars]

its even sicker when the next pull turns out to be 4x roc

and then we all go "FUCK YOUUUUUUUUU"

[Cesaria]

@Vagus: I've had 85 Farsha about 2 weeks now. This is what I know. for non brew, you give up way too much in the dot aspect to make cloudsplitter even worth a fuck. Use VV/RR/Apoc and just rampage spam. if you want to just use it for aftermath affect thats fine, but dont expect much.

For brewing however, its A+ choice.
Atmas:Use Lion, Blinding horn, and smiting blow
Gear:tp bonus +100 axe for offhand(better than MAB magian axe), Novio earring, Hecate earring, 2 mab rings from tahrongi, ws dmg+ head from moogle missions, mab pants from shantotto,
thunder belt/thunder gorget
*If thunder day, zodiac ring/rairin obi/artemis medal is better than mab ring/thunder belt/thunder gorget
Ascetic's drinks, Diabolos favor, and wizard's roll will add to your dmg, but not enough to NEED them.
You will 4 shot 2/3 grand wyrms, but you cannot fight Dragua as it is lightning resistant.
You will 2 shot everything else, except the 2 Khimaira in Ule, as they are lightning based.
You will 2 shot Ultima if in 2legs mode.
For some mobs, you will break the dmg cap in log which is 65,536 and you will just see the rollover. aka, "Vagus uses Cloudsplitter, Bukhis takes 2000 points of dmg" yet buhkis is at 19% after 1 ws.

Dont waste time upgrading to 90, it wont help brew damage.

Yeah it's not really worth atmaing up specifically for in normal melee situations - I tend to gank soothing light chests to get TP if no one else is and ride the aftermath a bit... but brewed it's pretty fun.

Tarus about the only race that can make that AF3 body look non-hideous

[Julian]

I saw him brewing a ton of bukhis with wildfire, so, I doubt he would use that axe over it D; lol

Which is kind of lame. I wanted to do that axe, but it just seems so... lackluster.

[vagus]

I saw him brewing a ton of bukhis with wildfire, so, I doubt he would use that axe over it D; lol

Which is kind of lame. I wanted to do that axe, but it just seems so... lackluster.

It is quite lackluster. Lol. Luckily i love bst enough that axe is fun. In terms of brewing, i'll use Wildfire over Cloudsplitter. Thanks for the info Gippo. MaB does effect the WS, however using atma's purely to increase CS #'s hurts my overall total damage. I just use RR/VV/Ultimate and load up on MaB gear. My WoE GaX warrior will out damage my bst so in abyssea i'll usually take that route. For anyone considering getting this axe. Only consider it, if you love bst. If you're a warrior, get Ukon or the WoE GaX. Maybe i should jump onto the SE forums and demand the axe be fixed. Lol. Too bad aftermath doesn't transfer over to my pet.

TARU SHEEP BST POWAH!

[CubsWoo]

Best emp for best job:

[Rionel]

For some reason, it never even crossed my mind that PUP could use Verethragna, haha.

Congrats.

[Indalecia]

Grats Jadey

[Evilvicious]

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incoming ochain~

[Virg]

Finally decided to get off my lazy ass and finish my last 15 claws.
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Now to finish Almace and Aegis.

[Salmijr]

For some reason, it never even crossed my mind that PUP could use Verethragna, haha.

Congrats.

Too bad pummel spanks smite on pup ; ;

[Mercilessturtle]

No it doesn't?

[Evilvicious]

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[Lyramion]

Too bad pummel spanks smite on pup ; ;

6hits with 0.75 fTP vs 4 hits with 2.25 fTP - how exactly should pummel be better?

[Koyangi]

It could be 1.25 and still be better due to aftermath.

[Niiro]

6hits with 0.75 fTP vs 4 hits with 2.25 fTP - how exactly should pummel be better?

Because that's not how fTP works.

Only the first hit of a multi hit WS is modified, the rest are 1.0. Pummel is 5.75, Smite is 5.25. In addition, aftermath for H2H is less significant than other weapons as it can only proc on one hand.

That said, no idea which is better in the long run.

[Byrthnoth]

Aftermath for H2H is just about as significant as the Aftermath for all 1H weapons.

[Niiro]

Yes but that's an artificial penalty because 1h emps are usually going to be dual wielded. In the case of H2H it's a deliberate limit placed on the weapon.

[Byrthnoth]

You lost me. H2H gets Empyrean base damage on both swings of their 2-hit attack round but double damage on only one of them. DW Empyreans get double damage on one swing of their 2-hit attack round and have to use an inferior base damage offhand.

They're essentially identical, except H2H gets a better deal.

[Niiro]

A PLD wielding Almace/shield gets empyrean base damage and ODD on all of their attacks, thus the "penalty" to 1h emps is an artificial one that comes as the cost of using DW.

You can't single wield an H2H weapon so the weapon was deliberately designed so that only 1 of the hands could proc ODD.

[Byrthnoth]

Paladin is the only 1H job that single wields ever, and it's only when they aren't DDing. ODD aftermath should apply to both hands for all jobs. Even then, 1H jobs get a worse deal than 2H jobs because both of their hands aren't holding Empyreans (damn you SE I want my second Twashtar!).