Final Form Magian Weapons

[vagus]

brulo has the worst drop rate
diabolos guy has kind of a medium drop rate
ogopogo is the best to get drops off of

Plus ogopogo is the easiest of them to kill.

[Deader2818]

Pretty much what I felt after having just done it.

Also, I can understand why shield and harp are the way they are due to not having the outside NM trials and VNMs before it.

[Julian]

Ogopogo has had a terrible double drop rate for my linkshell. I have a hard time believing the drop rates are heavily favored towards one t3 over the other. It's just that people do Ogo more, so there's more data, more people to report it. People do a couple Brulo/Maere and go OMG terrible drops then move over to Ogo. Small sample size, law of averages, etc. Rates are the same.

Uh, no, not really. Plenty of people have done lots of Brulo/Maeres to say otherwise.

[Hyriu]

Plus ogopogo is the easiest of them to kill.

meh lol, you can just afk melee Diabolos with a cure bot >_>

[Nemesio]

meh lol, you can just afk melee Diabolos with a cure bot >_>

You'd be surprised how many people die to his 2hr.

[Deader2818]

Nightmare does hate reset so not sure how exactly you can afk unless you are over-exaggerating

[Hyriu]

yes I am exaggerating but I think if you pop with the WHM outside it works? >_> either way you should always have a THF with you so hate reset wouldn't matter.

[Deader2818]

Ah right, forgot about that. Honestly, hardly brought a thf with us as TH doesnt seem to really help double drop rate.

[Yugl]

I noticed the Levi drop rate when I started, but that began to wane towards the 2nd O chain we made (Singles on three pops in a row). WHM outside the PT + MNK can probably afk Diabolos. I don't recall whether that resets enmity (No Draw + Sleep + DMG at the least), but that wasn't noticeable. If you're elvaan or galka, you can probably even fight him without cruor buffs.

[Atoreis]

Ah right, forgot about that. Honestly, hardly brought a thf with us as TH doesnt seem to really help double drop rate.

Now I know why you have so lol drop from Ogopogo. I always had Th9+ on it ( and on Brulo too). Th only seems to not help with Brulo and its completely opposite with Ogopogo.

(I wrote this earlier but was to busy to post)
You guys are lying yourself lol. My friend also started from Brulo and got 9/10 singles and then he went for Ogopogo and got 5 singles out of the rest he did till 75 souls... (which is like 85% double)

2/15 double from brulo for me
1/10 double for my friend

and around 85% double for me and my friend on ogopogo. Oh I want to say I had th9+ at all those kills and my friend also.

That has also nothing to do with which zone I prefer because I prefer Brulo and Altepa by far. My MNK was destroying Brulo like little babe with all those counters ( I was smiling when he was starting to hit faster ) and it's so much easier to track it on Altepa then on Ule ( If it claim on mountain you need to go all way around and fight against other ppl between True sound gears. Ofc it's the same with t2 every 10+ min ). So seriously stop lying ppl or make a solid parse because 90% ppl are saying what I am and maybe 10% that don't like competition is claiming something different.

[Deader2818]

Right, because lying about it benefits me so much.

Maybe form now on, people should actually track their drop logs and get a larger, even sample size from all 3 to get a true rate on it.

I had Brulo and Maere double drop around 30% of the time and had them both drop doubles 3 times in a row during the course of 75 souls.

I mean honestly, what do I have to gain lying about something like this?

[Atoreis]

Right, because lying about it benefits me so much.

Maybe form now on, people should actually track their drop logs and get a larger, even sample size from all 3 to get a true rate on it.

I had Brulo and Maere double drop around 30% of the time and had them both drop doubles 3 times in a row during the course of 75 souls.

I mean honestly, what do I have to gain lying about something like this?

lying yourself not other ppl. You got the feel that you do it better than you did.

[Deader2818]

I got it done either way and didn't take that long at all.

Trust me, sitting around and competing with people in the Range because they believe it has a higher double drop rate, wouldn't have gotten it done any better or faster than going to a different area that is not competed for at all and still getting about 1 in 4 to double drop.

[NynJa]

whats faster? having 2-5 groups competing for chione and having a 60% double drop rate on ogopogo, or having 0-2 groups competing for koios/gamayun and having a 25% double drop rate?

[Deader2818]

Most of the time when there was comp at Gamayun/Koios they were there for seals and not upgrades usually just tossed em seals as we popped for them. Got a few free t3 pops that way too.

[Fievel]

This whole argument is fucking stupid.

[Churchill]

Cool story.

For my 75 souls 69 came from Ogo, and I was getting 5 souls for 3 pops every time. The other 6 came from Maere, all singles. My buddy figured Maere would be faster than Ogo because no one camps it, and he has 13 souls from 11 pops, same setup as I used.

[Deader2818]

This whole argument is fucking stupid.

Im sorry my little mouse friend, defending our honor. ; ;

[Diomer]

meh lol, you can just afk melee Diabolos with a cure bot >_>

Diabolos can be an absolute cunt at times too; I was doing Dia for my souls until the 2nd time it drew in my mage for absolutely no reason and Nightmared the 3 of us and then slowly melee'd everyone down to 400 hp before killing us one by one with no time to reraise and claim before it killed the last person and depopped. After it happened the 2nd time, I switched exclusively to Ogo and even competing for them, it was faster and can't possibly fuck you over.

[Arthars]

all VNM T3 are same drop rate....

levi seem high because you kill it fast, and thus do more of it, and thus u see more +2....

some people can still wipe to diabolos....have a hard time etc etc and only get 1 so it seem to suck....

stop being voodoo about it ._. do 3 shields, gather 75 souls each on a diabolos, ifrit and levi, compare the drop rates then we'll be convinced that the drop rate is broken between them