Final Form Magian Weapons

[Esvedium]

IMPRESSIVE!

[NynJa]

Whys that monk wearing a weird hat and no black belt?

[Obsidian]

Whys that monk wearing a weird hat and no black belt?

Oddly enough, the first things I noticed were the rings.

[Neisan]

I didn't know you could HQ sea capes...

[Esvedium]

I didn't know you could HQ sea capes...

That made me laugh harder than it should have.

[noodles355]

Lv95 Rhongomaint!





Lol.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...129_224002.png
Waste of mirrors/sand.
(thanks ls peeps for angry sand!)

[Yugl]

Goading and drop Tyrant for Blitz.

Edit: Unless you want to depend on less hits from drakes landing.

[noodles355]

Tyrant/Bullwhip > Blitz/Goading would trade away 8Attack and 0.6% Haste for 75Hp... why would I do that?

Drakesbane/Stardiver keep 5hit off 3/4 hit WS with 35STP, one hit WS use ogier hands for 45STP to keep true 5hit.

[dasva]

You also get 1 more stp with blitz/goading

[noodles355]

Which isn't needed, nor changes any STP conciderations for other slots. Come on guys, really?

[Yugl]

Tyrant/Bullwhip > Blitz/Goading would trade away 8Attack and 0.6% Haste for 75Hp... why would I do that?

Drakesbane/Stardiver keep 5hit off 3/4 hit WS with 35STP, one hit WS use ogier hands for 45STP to keep true 5hit.

You would actually gain 5% critical hit rate (Unless you're already using Rancor Mantle), gain 75HP, and maintain the attack. However, as the edit says, you rely upon Stardiver/Drakesbane hits. The 5hit issue is incredibly problematic for non-regain moonshade users than I imagined though, I'll give you that much.

[noodles355]

I am using Rancor Mantle. You can assume I've looked over and concidered pretty much every plausible 5hit OAT combination that doesn't use moonshade, and everytime someone suggests a different one I haven't concidered, I actually go and check it over.

My current setup above sacrifices almost nothing during WS phase for Drakesbane and Stardiver, and still allows a decent set for Sonic Thrust and any other proc WS you may need. Also, as 45STP in TP gives me 20.0/hit, Save TP atmacite makes it a 4hit in VW without regain, which it wouldn't if I had 44STP or less. Misers of course only drops a hit on a 5 or 11, but I don't know a single DD that builds DD sets around different miser results.

Edit: Well, except myself on Cor.

[Yugl]

Wouldn't going Rancor Collar + Atheling add 6ATT and 3%DA then? I won't argue on the point of benefits for WS because I looked it over and you are right in that you gain a vast amount of flexibility.

For VW, assume regain. It's quite absurd not to given the availability of regain atmacite (unless this is outdated?) and monarch's to be honest.

[Nightfyre]

You'd need to make up Houyi's STP somewhere.

EDIT: Is Monarch's even worth the time to activate for non-/ra jobs? Serious question.

[Yugl]

You're right, I looked back at calculator and misread 19.5 as 19.6, so you would need that added benefit. I usually monaches at the beginning or during Amnesia. I haven't looked to deeply into VW to see the benefits of the latter due to spellcast focus though.

Anyways, I guess the lesson here is that sTP options on Chauris are lame... if you don't have moonshades. Yeah.

[Byrthnoth]

Is Monarch's even worth the time to activate for non-/ra jobs? Serious question.

I use it when Fanatic's is down and I have to time my WSs for fear of being one-shotted.

[noodles355]

This is what I'm guessing current best 6hit with OAT is:
OAT/Sword Strap/Thew
AF3+2/Mala/Dragonkin/Brutal
AF3+2/Dusk+1/Blitz/Rajas
Atheling/Bullwhip/Calmecac/AF3+2.

Obv. Brego instead of Dusk+1, but wanted to make a comparison of what's lost with the 5hit I'm using above (which should use brego, but waiting for price to drop and I want athos feet anyway).
5hit changes:
Sword>Rose
Thew>Hagneia
Blitz+Calmecac>Tyrant+Bestia
Mala>Houyi's
Total: Going from 6hit to 5hit you lose 2 Str, 2% DA, 2% TA, 2% QA and +3% Delay, in exchange for 14Acc, 6Att and 3Dex.
On Drakesbane/Stardiver, the only sacrifice you need to make is AF3+2 Body and Rajas Ring.

DA/TA/QA all somewhat diminished by OAT, and you could swap back in Calmecac over Bestia for the DA/TA at the expense of 0.6% Haste.

[Atoreis]

Sorry im a little drunk

[Atoreis]

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/4417/ukko99.jpg

:D

[aionls]

Grats.