Final Form Magian Weapons

[Corresapolonia]

you would assume in a "guide" you actually write down what is needed and done in order to win.

[Yugl]

Brady guide would disagree.

[Churchill]

SCH (locked on ???)
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4xDD, WHM
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COR

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#xSMN

Turn JA0Wait/Clipper on so bind/grav is a non issue and you don't get animation lock

SCH Embravas DD party

COR begins rolls

WHM, mules begin haste cycle

Food, prep 5m JA's

Rolls, hastes complete, drop COR

Invite SMN, SMN uses Astral Flow

Use 3m JA's

Pop ADL

SMN uses Perfect Defense

Watch on mules, WHM, be ready to remove enfeebling effects

Rip down ADL to 40~50% as fast as possible, activate AM3 if applicable

Ready for split, disengage early so you can re-engage the assist faster than waiting for the game to do it for you

Kill clone one, use Shock Squall if SMN has any skill and not just a burned PD mule
-Should have some saved TP from waiting for split, dump it on this clone

If wrong, immediately transition to clone two, pop meditate or any 2h's you have available if you want

If no terror/deathga this is as close to 100% win you can get if your members don't suck

[Byrthnoth]

SMN doesn't actually need skill to land Shock Squall. You don't get any MAcc from skill until your skill exceeds the cap for your current level (not me) and I've yet to find anything I can't Shock Squall.

[InsaniacTHF]

Having them split at closer to 40% definitely gives you more of a chance to kill the 2nd one compared to the other video I watched.

[pchan]

SMN doesn't actually need skill to land Shock Squall. You don't get any MAcc from skill until your skill exceeds the cap for your current level (not me) and I've yet to find anything I can't Shock Squall.

They also have 3 minutes hastega so I'm not sure why he uses WHM for that. Also SMN has more uses than SS, enfire is +45 per fist at maxed out skill, and lightning armor will occasionnally stun adl.

WHM, mules begin haste cycle

Pretty fail with a SMN available, you should use boost dex or str which you don't mention. On this fight WHM is actually far more useful than SCH or COR since regain sucks. +24/25 str or dex mew.

[Churchill]

Yet my win rate isn't a measly 50%, go figure

[pchan]

Yeah it is because you don't mention stunning the second clone haha. But seriously, stop claiming everywhere that SCH or COR do something when you use a job (WHM) and use an awesome spell like boost str or dex that can potentielly increase your overall damage by 10% with little to no effort.

[Churchill]

nah

[mdkuser]

my win rate is 75%~80%. yours?

[Atoreis]

Yeah it is because you don't mention stunning the second clone haha. But seriously, stop claiming everywhere that SCH or COR do something when you use a job (WHM) and use an awesome spell like boost str or dex that can potentielly increase your overall damage by 10% with little to no effort.

SCH has +12STR from Firestorm btw. Its not boost STR but its another reason to use it.

EDIT: I said I wont post again in that matter but couldnt resist.
EDIT2: In video you posted you still hold TP for no reason

[dasva]

Oh snap the more they post the more the win rate goes up

[Taint]

I still can't figure out why any lowman group would pop PD above 60%. He's a complete Baby until he splits and waiting until 60% gives you more time on the 2nd, 3rd clone if needed.

[Mafai]

I still can't figure out why any lowman group would pop PD above 60%. He's a complete Baby until he splits and waiting until 60% gives you more time on the 2nd, 3rd clone if needed.

My group doesn't do that b/c our SMNs are mules and couldn't Manastrom push your SMN under 1188 MP (if they're 99) and gimp your PD?

The group I run with is currently:

Total Marrows: 288 | Toward Relics: 147 | Sold: 141 | Total Gil: 2,130,700,000 (gil is totaled from Sold Marrows only)

Out of the above we depopped 18 ADL's always PD'ing on pop. Most of those wipes are from the early days when we were still getting familiar with the fight, accidentally pushing it below 40% (we also have pulled off this before as well), or the lame terror that gets off.

We also don't save our shock squall for until the 2nd mob is near dead, we use it immediately after split (hopefully to prevent a Tera Slash).

Pop > PD > Zerg to 40-50 > Split Happens > All Assist someone / Shock Squall > Zerg More > Kill Last one with DRK's Stunning / Weapon Bashing if it isn't up. (if needed) > Keep assisting to zerg down same mobs if the fight continues

Since we started using embrava, we are able to kill 2 ADL's per round of buffs (excluding PD obviously).

[Taint]

My group doesn't do that b/c our SMNs are mules and couldn't Manastrom push your SMN under 1188 MP (if they're 99) and gimp your PD?

The group I run with is currently:

Total Marrows: 288 | Toward Relics: 147 | Sold: 141 | Total Gil: 2,130,700,000 (gil is totaled from Sold Marrows only)

Out of the above we depopped 18 ADL's always PD'ing on pop. Most of those wipes are from the early days when we were still getting familiar with the fight, accidentally pushing it below 40% (we also have pulled off this before as well), or the lame terror that gets off.

We also don't save our shock squall for until the 2nd mob is near dead, we use it immediately after split (hopefully to prevent a Tera Slash).

Pop > PD > Zerg to 40-50 > Split Happens > All Assist someone / Shock Squall > Zerg More > Kill Last one with DRK's Stunning / Weapon Bashing if it isn't up. (if needed) > Keep assisting to zerg down same mobs if the fight continues

Since we started using embrava, we are able to kill 2 ADL's per round of buffs (excluding PD obviously).

Lowman? 6-8?

[Mafai]

Lowman? 6-8?

We have two groups, a weekday group and weekend group.

Our attendance is 8-12 people usually depending which group it is. I'd call it lowman-ish. Those numbers include people we bring on SMN since we don't have enough mules to cover that many PDs.

When fighting our setup is:

Mule BRD (SV locking on ???)
Mule SCH (Embrava locking on ???)
Mule COR (rotating in every 2 fights, and trying to reset SMNs)

PD PT: 3-4 DRK | 1-2 WAR | SMN

If we have more DDs then 1 PD can cover, they just go in another PT without PD but with buffs. Sometimes they don't die. If we get a lucky reset after 2 fights, we will PD that 2nd PT.

Typically we can full farm 4-5 pops and kill them all with time to burn the bijous farmed during that run.

[Taint]

We have two groups, a weekday group and weekend group.

Our attendance is 8-12 people usually depending which group it is. I'd call it lowman-ish. Those numbers include people we bring on SMN since we don't have enough mules to cover that many PDs.

When fighting our setup is:

Mule BRD (SV locking on ???)
Mule SCH (Embrava locking on ???)
Mule COR (rotating in every 2 fights, and trying to reset SMNs)

PD PT: 3-4 DRK | 1-2 WAR | SMN

If we have more DDs then 1 PD can cover, they just go in another PT without PD but with buffs. Sometimes they don't die. If we get a lucky reset after 2 fights, we will PD that 2nd PT.

Typically we can full farm 4-5 pops and kill them all with time to burn the bijous farmed during that run.

If it ain't broke don't fix it!

[Renzy]

Stop taking it below 40% Maf, control yourself.

[Warusha]

41% : Ok everyone stop!
-- 2 seconds later--
40% : omg that was close!
-- 3 seconds later--
39%: (all in unison) Nooooo!

[Evanu1987]

Why do ppl post empies with afterglow and think its an accomplishment they bought a ton of gil?