Final Form Magian Weapons

[Narol]

I suppose they figured giving blu an aoe slow stronger than a rdm's slow was just too powerful.

It wouldn't have to be as strong as the mob's version. Look at how strong Pollen is for some mobs.

[Nightfyre]

It wouldn't have to be as strong as the mob's version. Look at how strong Pollen is for some mobs.

Pollen, Exuviation, Warm-Up, and Zephyr Mantle off the top of my head are all noticeably weaker than the monster versions. Not at all uncommon for spells to get toned down for the player versions.

[coldbrand]

Pollen, Exuviation, Warm-Up, and Zephyr Mantle off the top of my head are all noticeably weaker than the monster versions. Not at all uncommon for spells to get toned down for the player versions.

Screwdriver!

[Malacite]

Well, there was the recent case with RNG where they wrote explicitly on the preview that RNG was in fact getting an enmity adjustment based on distance from the target. And then the actual update came and they said at the bottom they'd revoked it.

Dick move on SE's part IMO, but generally you have to learn to read between the lines. Methinks SE chose B+ because A rating would have put PUP too close to MNK's per-fist damage which would unbalance the game since while MNK has better gear/faster attacks, PUP has the automaton.

Not exactly a fair trade off. It's entirely possible that they might boost PUP to A once the cap is at 99, depending on the skill gap but for now A rank would be OP.

[chazzyphizzle]

zephyr mantle is pretty much the same as the mob move isnt it, 5ish shadows? not to derail or anything.

[Nightfyre]

Well, there was the recent case with RNG where they wrote explicitly on the preview that RNG was in fact getting an enmity adjustment based on distance from the target. And then the actual update came and they said at the bottom they'd revoked it.

Dick move on SE's part IMO, but generally you have to learn to read between the lines. Methinks SE chose B+ because A rating would have put PUP too close to MNK's per-fist damage which would unbalance the game since while MNK has better gear/faster attacks, PUP has the automaton.

Not exactly a fair trade off. It's entirely possible that they might boost PUP to A once the cap is at 99, depending on the skill gap but for now A rank would be OP.

MNK still would have been the superior DD generally speaking, so it wouldn't have been unbalanced.

zephyr mantle is pretty much the same as the mob move isnt it, 5ish shadows? not to derail or anything.

We get 4, Puks get 4-10.

[miokomioko]

So... Magian weapons... final form. Does upgrading your Colorful Abyssite upon killing your required VNM Trial hose your ability to pop it and require you to go kill a dozen+ more tier-1 VNMs to get your Colorful back?

Also, is it pretty much just DoT/kiting that makes soloing any of the tier-2s even possible?

http://www.discoverlivesteam.com/pho...d%20rerail.jpg

[Yugl]

So... Magian weapons... final form. Does upgrading your Colorful Abyssite upon killing your required VNM Trial hose your ability to pop it and require you to go kill a dozen+ more tier-1 VNMs to get your Colorful back?

Also, is it pretty much just DoT/kiting that makes soloing any of the tier-2s even possible?

http://www.discoverlivesteam.com/pho...d%20rerail.jpg

Tier II are soloed using kiting or pinning. Some of them you can only DoT, but many you can TIII them as well.

[Sho]

It wouldn't have to be as strong as the mob's version. Look at how strong Pollen is for some mobs.

Actually it would have been. Or very very close. Filamented Hold rendered Spider Web 'useless' anyways.

[Cleverness]

So... Magian weapons... final form. Does upgrading your Colorful Abyssite upon killing your required VNM Trial hose your ability to pop it and require you to go kill a dozen+ more tier-1 VNMs to get your Colorful back?

If noone else has a T2 then yes. We were fighting T2 scorp and on the 5th one the persons abyssite upgraded and we started fighting T1's to try and upgrade our others to colorful. Someone then offered to pop it for us for our 6th but if not we'd have had to keep farming T1's till someone got upgraded.

[Shadida]

http://files1.guildlaunch.net/guild/...gonmaw8064.png

Still on SAM for one last Verthandi fight, but I cannot wait to test this out!!

[Budonez]

Wow, very nice. Looking forward to the numbers that thing can put out.

[Shadida]

This gun is fucking insane.

Some initial observations:

- Without any Barrage+ gear, I still max out at 6 shots, so no proc on Barrage, it seems.
- You can miss one or both shots, they act like individual ranged attacks. You only shoot once, but two ranged attacks appear in the log.
- Slug Shot still consumes 1 bullet. I haven't seen an Unlimited Shot WS consume a bullet but I am keeping an eye out because of Eurekavii's report that a PPA was lost with Goshawk.
- This thing eats through bullets like no other.

More when I have a chance to test more. Gonna use it to kill a Jailer of Faith soon. :D

[Allelujah]

been so focused on cor gun, that i haven't played w/ my goshawk;

grats on your gun, if it was as much pain as mine was, i know how you feel.

1 yacumama and 6 feruenkes till my 2nd magian weapon is done. your WS damage still decent? someone in my LS poked fun at me because they said I was losing parse at a yilbegan, while i was clearly testing the proc rate and trying not to die...

reguarding these magian weapons, do you think that these will still be decent as the level cap goes up? or will be allowed to augment them even farther?

[Shadida]

I just did an emergency Mekki Shakki run so my 5-hit is now complete... this is awesome. Using it at Experimental Lamia and it's insane dot and Slugs are still respectable (still outdoing DRK Guillotines and I'm /NIN). I haven't compared w/ my Hellfire+1 but this is fun as hell!

[Magitek]

I haven't compared w/ my Hellfire+1 but I'll be broke as hell!

ftfy~

[Shadida]

ftfy~

It's true, this gun is going to bankrupt me lol

[Ksandra]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15.../teiwazget.png

I'm so happy I'm done

[Nishida]

I'm wondering. As an Elvaan w/ crappy INT..for higher resist builds would this:
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__.../Trial0824.png

Be better than a Jupiter's since it'd let me stack more mab/int instead of macc/skill for high resist builds? Not quite sure how it all works..if it'd be a big enough difference..

[Khajit]

Quick! do some magic acc testing. I've not seen anyone do a test of the magic acc to confirm that hq staves has been "pwned"