Final Form Magian Weapons

[Priran]

It makes more sense that the weaker variations of the OAT weapons become 2-3 or 2-4 further down the line.

No, it really doesn't.

I see that comment as referring to the currently unused trial numbers seemingly reserved for a third relic/mythic upgrade.

[Malacite]

It makes more sense that the weaker variations of the OAT weapons become 2-3 or 2-4 further down the line.

No it doesn't. The stronger ones require much more work and both quests are equally as long.

[Thorny]

No it doesn't. The stronger ones require much more work and both quests are equally as long.

More work? 1200 mobs = 20 hours minimum, considering you won't get shit for parties for the weaker ones. I spent about 30 hours getting my eyes of verthandi without using LS help on t1/t2, would be significantly less with a group.. they're not that different.

[Khelek]

More work? 1200 mobs = 20 hours minimum, considering you won't get shit for parties for the weaker ones. I spent about 30 hours getting my eyes of verthandi without using LS help on t1/t2, would be significantly less with a group.. they're not that different.

homer simpson's job for 20 hrs does not equal to the same amount of work as say 20hrs on a fishing boat in a storm.

[Priran]

More work? 1200 mobs = 20 hours minimum, considering you won't get shit for parties for the weaker ones. I spent about 30 hours getting my eyes of verthandi without using LS help on t1/t2, would be significantly less with a group.. they're not that different.

Just to add on to your disproving of your own point, plenty of people get unlucky with their abyssite upgrades and in any case, T3s are not soloable.

[Quizno]

For the vast majority of the community the disparity is much greater than 10 hours.

[Thorny]

Just to add on to your disproving of your own point, plenty of people get unlucky with their abyssite upgrades and in any case, T3s are not soloable.

Plenty of people get unlucky? You're talking to the guy who accidentally depopped a verthandi and went 1/30 on one of his yellows. It's really not that much of a difference, sorry.

@Homer Simpson analogy: This is FFXI, not a job. I don't think having to hit more macros per second is a noticable difference in difficulty.

@People who can't solo t2: Admittedly, this is a problem with fairy path since skuld is shitty and urd isn't soloable. However, Lamprey Lord, Jyestha, Capricornus, and Erebus are all pretty lol fights for anything with DoT.

@T3: If you don't have friends, why play?

Yes, there's a difference. Yes, the lower damage ones are easier to get. No, it's not as big as you guys want to make it into.

[Priran]

@T3: If you don't have friends, why play?

it took like what, 5 years for SE to add a passable method of solo exp? if you think they're going to give comparable rewards for something that is soloable and something that takes a group you're deluded.

[Thorny]

it took like what, 5 years for SE to add a passable method of solo exp? if you think they're going to give comparable rewards for something that is soloable and something that takes a group you're deluded.

I'm not arguing about the reward, personally would prefer it isn't that way and don't expect it to be. Fuck redoing the first stages of Athame because my clearly superior weapon turns inferior later.

I'm arguing about effort, there really isn't that much of a difference between the 2.

[TybudX]

No it doesn't. The stronger ones require much more work and both quests are equally as long.

I was more referring to how much SE loves to make us waste time doing pointless shit, but yeah, can't find 3-5 people to do tier 3s with? /sadface

[Demosthenes11]

/shrug Use the Soboro, I don't care. It's not worth the discussion anymore.

holy fuck if you disagree, you post why you disagree and show where they were wrong. If not, it's you talking out of your ass looking like a fucking tool with a score to settle because the big boys stole your teddy bear.

grow a dick

[miokomioko]

Does anyone have any suggestions for Trial 116 (Cat's Claws)?

Kill 100 Crawlers in Ice/Water/Earth/Dark weather.

I don't think any crawlers even exist in Ice/Dark weather areas. The only thing that comes to mind at 75 are those Prosessionaires deep in The Boyahda Tree but rainy weather seems almost rare because of the constant Lightning storms there.

Pashhow Marshlands would be perfect, but I don't have anyone to level-sync down to for those... I might have someone to sync to for Canyon Crawlers in Tahrongi dust storms, but it's not too realistic at the moment.

[ronin sparthos]

Hm isn't Crawler's Nest (S) chock full of crawlers near the Lugh room?

[Scritch]

I did Knight Crawlers in the Tree. Water weather is sorta rareish, but ask someone who has to do lightning weather there and all they'll complain about is "Its always water weather." It helped that I was duoing with a friend who needed to kill funguars in lightning, so we combined pretty perfectly.

[Suljin]

Does anyone have any suggestions for Trial 116 (Cat's Claws)?

Kill 100 Crawlers in Ice/Water/Earth/Dark weather.

I don't think any crawlers even exist in Ice/Dark weather areas. The only thing that comes to mind at 75 are those Prosessionaires deep in The Boyahda Tree but rainy weather seems almost rare because of the constant Lightning storms there.

Pashhow Marshlands would be perfect, but I don't have anyone to level-sync down to for those... I might have someone to sync to for Canyon Crawlers in Tahrongi dust storms, but it's not too realistic at the moment.

Actually if you can find someone in the 30s to sync to, theres a spot past the afflictor in the tunnels where theres an off arm that forms a T, where on either side of the top of the t shape there are 2 rooms, with 4 crawlers in them each. where the t crosses, there are 4 quadav, I cant remember but I believe I went in there at 32? with a friend just following me with my pup on VE frame and /dnc and I was able to kill almost 75 in like 2 hrs

[pooter01]

@People who can't solo t2: Admittedly, this is a problem with fairy path since skuld is shitty and urd isn't soloable. However, Lamprey Lord, Jyestha, Capricornus, and Erebus are all pretty lol fights for anything with DoT.

Sadly, most jobs that don't have DoT, are the jobs that actually like using weapons on a regular basis. You don't know how many times I've asked my LS, shouted, ect. when all I need is a rdm and I could potentially duo both. I've killed 2 urds 2 skulds so far. Every VNM pickup I find spams xarc/ronf for 3 hours(Yay for people upgrading Scyth), then does a single round in bat downs and calls it a night. I for one would much rather kill 1200 more EP mobs than keep begging people for help that just don't care.

Hell, I'm still not done with my Dex/acc dagger cause Qutrubs are a pain, and regardless of how many people I've helped by killing EP this and that, I still get stuck trying to solo them.

Meh

[Wortie]

I’m currently working on Trial 841 with the Teiwaz staff for Pet Magic Attack +7. However I am unable to find a good reliable spot to kill Slimes under weather. Weather must be Ice, Earth, Water or Dark weather.

If you can find somebody to level sync to, Ranguemont Pass is amazing, weather was up 80-90% of the time with two camps that you can easily move between.

[miokomioko]

My first thought for non-level syncing, is Sea Serpent Grotto... Not a whole lot of slimes, but the weather is usually pretty wet.

[Guitarman]

or try aydeewa subteranne, groups of slimes in the pools, and water weather fairly regularly.

[Meian]

or try aydeewa subteranne, groups of slimes in the pools, and water weather fairly regularly.

Tried, was wind the whole time I was there going on and off... I'll try the mire next