Final Form Magian Weapons

[Asmoranomar]

Here, at BG, you will be judged as if you have infinite inventory, infinite time, infinite money, and whatever job you're on is the only one you have. So... don't be surprised.

Don't be surprised if I do have infinite inventory, time, money and BRD is my only job.

Oh and that I'm playing to the tune of two songs...what? I never said I wasn't interested in the new staves - I just don't want to jump thru SE's hoops until some other poor bastard works the data first.

For most BRDs tho, my point still stands.

[Meian]

For the slime portion, Caedarva Mire has been working well just needs 3 merit 5/5 bp to take it down. Going by the ones near Imp camps since they are EP as opposed to the DC ones near the shade areas. Prolly no diff but safer even though theres just two. 5 min repop makes no waiting time unless you're teaming up.

[cdgreg]

Jupiter is 15% damage / 30 magic acc

The mac on staff is not a % it's constant

considering NQ staves are 20 mac, you can expect 40 magic acc from the new staves

so the "affinity : +1 mac" would be something like affinity+1 where base_affinity=10 magic accuracy and "afinity : +1 magic damage" would be would be affinity+1 where base_affinity = 5% magic damage.

The result from affinity : mac+n / mdmg+m would be

(n+1)*10 mac and (m+1)*5% dmg

Thanks for the info (you too Kirschy) and I'll admit this kind of math blows my mind.
Taking your data that Jupiter's is 15% damage / 30 magic acc, what would you estimate the below staff be?
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__.../Trial0823.png?
20% damage / ??? magic acc

I'm trying to decide if I should replace Jupiter's and Aquilo's for BLM nuking with Teiwaz and above stats.

[Priran]

...20

[cdgreg]

...20

Thanks, I see now, (n+1)*10 mac and (m+1)*5% dmg is much easier than I thought it was...

[ssjjfar]

Thanks for the info (you too Kirschy) and I'll admit this kind of math blows my mind.
Taking your data that Jupiter's is 15% damage / 30 magic acc, what would you estimate the below staff be?
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__.../Trial0823.png?
20% damage / ??? magic acc

I'm trying to decide if I should replace Jupiter's and Aquilo's for BLM nuking with Teiwaz and above stats.

I'm doing just Thunder one now, since atm you can't macro or spellcast to differentiate between the two Teiwaz's, and its less of a difference of losing macc, since not losing 5int and 10 eleskill. Chances are I wont replace Jupiter's and just keep that for hnms and higher resist stuff.

[cdgreg]

I'm doing just Thunder one now, since atm you can't macro or spellcast to differentiate between the two Teiwaz's, and its less of a difference of losing macc, since not losing 5int and 10 eleskill. Chances are I wont replace Jupiter's and just keep that for hnms and higher resist stuff.

Ya good point about Aquilo's natural stave stats. Think I'll do thunder one though, thanks.

[Chuburger]

Not sure if this have been mentioned, but since a few of the more popular trials involve NMs that overlap with The Miraculous Dale quest, I logged both and one kill will fulfill both objectives at the same time.

[seiji]

More work? 1200 mobs = 20 hours minimum, considering you won't get shit for parties for the weaker ones. I spent about 30 hours getting my eyes of verthandi without using LS help on t1/t2, would be significantly less with a group.. they're not that different.

solo: 20<30 and you still need help for TierIII, "easy path" need no skill
group: the 1200 kills are more significantly less, are accounted for every people who are on "same monsters" trials, VNM path only one can progress

thats absolutly not the same "work"

[Neosutra]

So..

Arthars, what do you think about the OAT katana off hand now?

Blow your mind, making you toss your perdu into the sands of time?

Slightly better?

Fucking awesome?

[NynJa]

I'm doing just Thunder one now, since atm you can't macro or spellcast to differentiate between the two Teiwaz's, and its less of a difference of losing macc, since not losing 5int and 10 eleskill. Chances are I wont replace Jupiter's and just keep that for hnms and higher resist stuff.

Presuming the caps, wherever they land at any given time, will end with ice/thunder being the top spells. Where will your god be when the cap at 99 presents Water and Stone6 as the top spells?!?

[Meian]

Presuming the caps, wherever they land at any given time, will end with ice/thunder being the top spells. Where will your god be when the cap at 99 presents Water and Stone6 as the top spells?!?

Same reason I am holding out on getting Wind Affinity staff for Garuda until more bps are revealed in case Predator Claws becomes obsolete over another avatar's bp. Unless something replaces Fenrir, it will be the better one to keep out for a longer period of time in general even at 99 so I went that route for now.

[Magicide]

Am I confused or are the weapon descriptions just that shitty? Where does 20% DMG come from Thunder Damage +3 lol?

Description bitching aside, what's the verdict on any of the magic staves with MDMG+3/MACC+1 vs the standard HQ counterpart for BLM nuking?

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29...nder3_1243.png
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29...nder4_2010.png

This is on Elvaan SCH, 5/5 INT merits, with the Thunder Damage +3 Teiwaz, Bugard Leather Strap +1, Phantom Tathlum, AF+1 head, Uggy pendant, novio, moldy, morgana's cotehardie, vicious mufflers, snow rings x2, gleeman's cape, obi, mahatma slops and shrewd pumps, on lightningsday with thunderstorm up, with cream puff and ebullience. The Thunder 4 was while the mob had Burn on it, no other buffs.

Verdict: pure sex for pure damage @puddings, and I didn't have a problem with resists in that build even with morgana's cotehardie. I've yet to nuke anything resistant with it but haven't sold my Jupiter's just yet.

[Rhae]

So..

Arthars, what do you think about the OAT katana off hand now?

Blow your mind, making you toss your perdu into the sands of time?

Slightly better?

Fucking awesome?

Allowed myself to quote this since I have the weapon you are asking about. It's been only 2 days since I finished last trial and tested it only briefly, but it seems DA proc rate is high like rest of OAT weapons from magian trials. It definitely is an improvement to Perdu considering you eat pizza and don`t mind -5acc from losing perdu (kikoku/isatu setup). Despite higher delay getting 100tp is faster than it was before with Perdu Blade. Using your terminology I would say it's between slightly better and fucking awesome

[Arthars]

it is a fucking improvement

can you imagine? no more 99% bullshit because of the slight lesser delay from kikoku vs senji with 2 toreador.....and being forced to use rajas for TP is pretty bad.....

the OAT is about 35-40% and its been working fine with sushi atm for me since im mass helping friends on tier 2 VNMs which are kinda evasive + im using yonin on them... it will be awesome with pizza

the 5 acc loss from perdu is fine you get to use 2nd toreador ring now anywayz to make up for that few acc loss.... the delay really helps in alot in TP building

and im already almost going to toss my perdu

actually Rhae pretty much said everything im just backing his testimonial ^^

[Dantrag]

Luchtaine
373: 300 Cluster Bombs

Where is the best place to do this?

[Arthars]

mount zha, right outside the runic portal(the open area)

can pull 10 cluster per cycle, just camp at the middle

[Dantrag]

Is it soloable or require a healer/others?

[ronin sparthos]

Is it soloable or require a healer/others?

Could be duoed with a healer.

[Arthars]

yea not hard to find a RDM needing cluster trial to go anyway ^^