Final Form Magian Weapons

[Khajit]

Yeah it was talked about early. Joytoy is better but there are augments for occasionally attacks 2~3 times and higher in the .dat so that position could change fairly drastically very soon.

[Odog]

I didn't have the patience to kparse a large enough sample size to be super accurate but on about 1k attack rounds for joy-toy and Antea I got 45% and 40% respectively. Is that pretty much in the ballpark?

I know this is way late but just confirming since I read a lot of garbage posts (back on page 11ish) people claiming joytoy was 40% but with no proof. All the testing I do puts joy right around 45%.

My conclusion = Antea garbage for atonement spam -> stick in storage and hope it gets much better.

All that sound about right?

[Malacite]

It's also still the only OAT Sword for BLU (well, other than Tizona but F that)

I am still positively convinced these are the beginning stages of the Ultimate Weapons.

[MaachaQ]

It's also still the only OAT Sword for BLU (well, other than Tizona but F that)

I am still positively convinced these are the beginning stages of the Ultimate Weapons.

Most likely correct, if you look at the Abyssea site just updated today, the page showing the weapons mentions the Magian trials as the way to get them. "Empyrian Weapons"

[Hyan]

They gonna have some stats of epic proportions if the beginning stage has OAT in it already >__>

[jimbobsonofgod]

They gonna have some stats of epic proportions if the beginning stage has OAT in it already >__>

Beginning stage is probably the +Damage Unique Weapon at the end of each trial, you probably wont be able to use any magian trial.

[Shenrien]

Beginning stage is probably the +Damage Unique Weapon at the end of each trial, you probably wont be able to use any magian trial.

If this holds to be true, the next stage will be the unlocking of the new weapon skills, I wouldn't be surprised if one stage is "In Abyssea: Tachi: Ageha" and then the following stage after "Tachi: Ageha" of course speaking of the Masamune.

Then after completing the weapon skill trial, you could eventually unlock these new weapons, giving birth to a Empyrian Weapon, which after that (next update probably) you would be able to place multiple augments onto your weapon, such as TP Bonus, Accuracy, Attack, sTP, OAT, ect...ect.. all the things that we saw in the dats from last update that were not available currently, they did say they were going to allow a lot of augments on these weapons to make them truly amazing, 500 or something? I don't remember but I know it was stated back at Vana'fest.

[jimbobsonofgod]

500 or something?

well 500 different choices
and up to 80 on one weapon i believe.

[Hyan]

well 500 different choices
and up to 80 on one weapon i believe.

How can this even be possible? >_>

[Shenrien]

How can this even be possible? >_>

Placing certain augments on the weapon will probably not allow you to place other ones on it, like if you put 500 accuracy on it, you cant put any attack or stp on it.

[Hyan]

Placing certain augments on the weapon will probably not allow you to place other ones on it, like if you put 500 accuracy on it, you cant put any attack or stp on it.

Oh, I thought 500 different augment choices or something nuts.

[jimbobsonofgod]

Oh, I thought 500 different augment choices or something nuts.

I'm pretty sure its up to 80 on a weapon and 500 variations, i'm also pretty sure that they considered all 500/(14 magian weapons) which puts it at only 36 different variations per weapon, even less if they considered relics and mythics as part of the whole as well.

anybody want to do the math and figure out how many currently variations of all weapons we have so far ?(starting from base weapon and including every trial up until final its probably gonna be close to 500)

[seiji]

I'm pretty sure its up to 80 on a weapon and 500 variations, i'm also pretty sure that they considered all 500/(14 magian weapons) which puts it at only 36 different variations per weapon, even less if they considered relics and mythics as part of the whole as well.

anybody want to do the math and figure out how many currently variations of all weapons we have so far ?(starting from base weapon and including every trial up until final its probably gonna be close to 500)

last trial (not counting relics/mythic) is #989, one unused trial number beetwen different weapon type=989variatons of non relic/mythic

"final" weapon
-each mele weapon get:1 dmg, 2oat,1stat per element, 1 add efect per element
=19*12=228
-each pet jobs weapon(h2h/pole/axe/staff) also get 1 pet: per element
+4*8=260
- staves get 3 afinity per ele (dmg+1 acc+3 / dmg+3 acc+1/ avatar perp)
+3*8=284
-light stave get cure bonus
+1=285
ranged get 1dmg,2oat,1stat per ele (no add efect)
+11*2=307 weapon

+relic/mythic

[Byrthnoth]

And there are intermediate weapon stages.

[Malacite]

It won't be the +DMG weapons.

It has to be the OAT (with +DMG) as they are at the moment, the hardest ones to obtain and also the most powerful. It fits right in line with things too; VNMs were just a sampling of what Abyssea will offer, as are these cool weapons a sampling of the Ultimates.


Go go OA 2-4x with DMG + God only knows what. Wonder what the Relic & Mythic updates will be like to balance them against these things (a few people I know, one whom you're rather familiar with lol, are crying their little hearts out over Relics finally getting owned)

DEATH TO ZILART It's about fucking time we get something better than a Zilart Endgame drop.

[Konda]

Has there been any testing/maths about OAT Gaxe?

approx location or link to any info would be much appreciated.

[Byrthnoth]

It won't be the +DMG weapons.

It has to be the OAT (with +DMG) as they are at the moment, the hardest ones to obtain and also the most powerful. It fits right in line with things too; VNMs were just a sampling of what Abyssea will offer, as are these cool weapons a sampling of the Ultimates.


Go go OA 2-4x with DMG + God only knows what. Wonder what the Relic & Mythic updates will be like to balance them against these things (a few people I know, one whom you're rather familiar with lol, are crying their little hearts out over Relics finally getting owned)

DEATH TO ZILART It's about fucking time we get something better than a Zilart Endgame drop.

Actually, I predict the oat2-3 will be an extention of the crappy oat2 trial if it shows up. That will likely be followed by another crappy oat 2-3 version that can be extended to 2-4, possibly with no base damage increase from the base oat weapon.

OAT GA is worse than fort axe in some
ways. Do not bother with it.

[Konda]

OAT GA is worse than fort axe in some
ways. Do not bother with it.

so perdu/RC or bust?

[Tsuko_Asura]

so perdu/RC or bust?

Perdu isn't in the running anymore. Fortitude/Rune/Magian DMG+ or bust.

[Konda]

so I wasted all them IS

I have fort, can buy rune(tho dont have much gear to swap round for super sexy crit build), and I guess I can work on dmg+ migrain... dmg+4 = srs business? I don't have any Gaxe merits