Final Form Magian Weapons

[Soho]

So has anyone done rough maths on where the OAT weapons with these upgrades sit vs. the Empyrean ones?

[Onorgul]

Anyone with Wargfangs tested to see what today's "fix" was?

[Atoreis]

RNG is broken

51 gun with 90 dmg bullets and
Occasionally deals double dmg

OR

15 dmg gun with 90dmg bullets and
Occasionaly attacks 2-3 times

all that with new abiliti of occasionaly attacks twice?

Hey RNG why you are not shooting?
RNG: "I will get hate"
But we fighting 5 min already
RNG: "It doesnt fucking matter!"

[Viserdes]

was pleased to look up what my high dmg ultimatum turns into. High dmg ultimatum after 2 trials turns into redemption, first trial requires 8 kills on a Tammuz(sp?) then the second trial requires 50 two leaf buds (of some sort).

[Raen Ryong]

So has anyone done rough maths on where the OAT weapons with these upgrades sit vs. the Empyrean ones?

My rough math on OaT Scythe vs Redemption is that OaT Scythe still wins by roughly 4% DoT and 8% WS damage. This comparison neglects TP overflow.

[heartslaught]

Since my connection blows chunks currently and all I can do is post really (can't even download the update) can anyone give me info on teh new magian trial (quest wise) for magnatus to armageddon and what the stats are for the middle step? Thank you much ^_^.

[Xajii]

My rough math on OaT Scythe vs Redemption is that OaT Scythe still wins by roughly 4% DoT and 8% WS damage. This comparison neglects TP overflow.

502 delay hurts 6 hit builds ;;

[Nameless]

Still kinda sad that SE seems to take the full dmg path as the main ultimate weapon path....

[fredjanx]

502 delay hurts 6 hit builds ;;

Rose strap

[firefeng]

502 delay hurts 6 hit builds ;;

Not when you're using a 4-hit WS (never had problems with Moli's after getting Rajas as /SAM using Guillotine...unless you really, really wanted to spam Infernal Scythe...), and certainly not with the glut of new gear that stuffs Store TP on top of Haste.

[Aristio]

The weaponskill trials just increase WS dmg by 10%.

Edit: With weapon equiped of course.

[Cream Soda]

Well, good thing my Mantis are almost done. Need 3 more keeper of heldoms and the two vnm x6

How difficult are the paths for the DMG+ weapons?

[chazzyphizzle]

No idea yet, takes 8 kills of some random mob, for gkt his name is Chesma, then for Masamune upgrade it takes 50 of some item from Abyssea probably.

Also, how do you start the weaponskill trials?

[Raen Ryong]

502 delay hurts 6 hit builds ;;

Oh, is one of them 502? I was "reliably" informed that they were both 528. This will change the results somewhat (but not enough to change the outcome, just the margin thereof). Both are easily 6hit with Guillo.

[miokomioko]

Well, good thing my Mantis are almost done. Need 3 more keeper of heldoms and the two vnm x6

How difficult are the paths for the DMG+ weapons?

I just finished my Mantis the other day and now the next trial is to kill an Abyssea NM 8 times for 1 more DMG. After that, it's a path of either 2 trials, one turning them into the giant shit turkeys, the other turning them into Revenant Fists, which I think involved 20 Walk of Echoes drops. (neither have augments)

[Malacite]

So... The Empyrean are a separate path from the OAT? Or what?

[Arthars]

its the next tier of the highest D path

at least i dont have to do it for my katana and scythe XD

might do bow or knife tho ;O

OAT one still better offhand for my kikoku, but im sad occ att 3 times is not out

[miokomioko]

So... The Empyrean are a separate path from the OAT? Or what?

I can tell you for sure the Hand-to-hand Empyrean weapons are on a path that splits off from the high-DMG type that involves Abyssea NM kills. I don't know if they are all on a path that splits off all types, with appropriate augments or just high-DMG paths.

[Rehn]

Any wargfang owners tested it to see any changes?

[lolwut]

Checked the Moogle, confirmed Armageddon is from Magnatus base dmg. Pretty much a lock that all of them will come from dmg path.