Abyssea HNMs

[cdgreg]

I really didn't understand the idea behind /war, yea it spams 'gas relentlessly but not enough to justify taking hits and frantically trying to keep hate. Exeter and Pride probably would have done fine /nin.

Ironically I think Emma told someone that /war was a better choice from BBQ's fight lol. But ya, we're definitely going to /nin next time. Thanks for the tips, I think positioning was our biggest issue since the alliance taking aoe's instead of just the tanks.

[Jaxzer]

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[cdgreg]

^^ agreed

[orson]

The uhm...Recoil...something... resets hate on whoever it hits.

Not that it matters much but has that been confirmed? I've mostly only fought it with larger groups so the fight is short but it always seemed like recoil dive just randomly targets a target not necessarily the next highest enmity person. That and it seems the tanks have no issue getting hate back almost right away after 2hr. Again though I've never fought it with less than 5 so maybe just no one has a chance to get a lot of hate ahead of each other.

[Thorny]

Personally, I think most of them ignore CE during 2hr. Skuld is a good example of this, unless you're going to argue a specific spell resets hate it flies around pretty randomly during 2h.

[Afrohatch]

Not that it matters much but has that been confirmed? I've mostly only fought it with larger groups so the fight is short but it always seemed like recoil dive just randomly targets a target not necessarily the next highest enmity person. That and it seems the tanks have no issue getting hate back almost right away after 2hr. Again though I've never fought it with less than 5 so maybe just no one has a chance to get a lot of hate ahead of each other.

My Atonement did 0 damage immediately after it dive'd me

[drewbixcube]

Another testimony: duoing capricornus with rdm/nin x2 when it 2hours we just run away from each other (you can range recoil dive just by running, no need for enhanced speed) and as soon as he dive's one of us he goes to the other like clockwork, even if one RDM started with much more hate. Skuld from what I noticed isn't necessarily random hate but just a hate reset when it pops chainspell. With RDM/NINx2, SMNx2, THF everyone was being randomly targetted until I put a titan with stoneskin on her and realized he was holding hate fairly well (being nuked and melee'd constantly without skuld looking away) until he got killed.

edit: Also we tried PLD/BLU RDM/NINx2 on yacumama and the PLD never lost hate instantly during hundred fists, and tanked most of them until mp got bad under 20%. I think it was more that he was bleeding hate from taking constant damage and not able to establish a very high hate threshold above the RDMs that eventually had to cure him. Shit is a joke with cocoon and phalanx 2 but once he spams hundred fists below 20 and the RDMs have to focus on curing and can't nuke it down quickly/don't have convert up that's when it got messy. Should also note the PLD did not have too great of a dd set and had to rely on flash/cures/etc. Could probably be done by PLD/BLU, RDM/NIN(phalanx2), WHM/NIN. If mages are comfortable with the PLD being able to hold hate then they could possibly use a most efficient subjob but we had only fought him once and wanted to be safe. And we died anyway due to lack of communication and hate bouncing between the other RDM and I after the PLD died during HF spam <.<

[Thorny]

no CE != no hate

also, nin rdm brd can do yacumama easily

[AzazaelFenrir]

what setups are people using for the T2 STR ring mobs? We keep having a hard time on the Skelly. The flesh is burnable though right?

[Thorny]

what setups are people using for the T2 STR ring mobs? We keep having a hard time on the Skelly. The flesh is burnable though right?

flesh takes -90% PDT when hundred fists isn't on and loves to eat mages when HF is on, if you have enough people to stunlock it you can manaburn it down pretty fast, if not it's pretty ugly

the best lowman strat i've found for it is to bring it to a zone on nin, get double mambos, and have a blm zone nuke(4men, nin rdm blm brd)

skeleton is laughable, rdm can solo, rdm + mnk can duo.. add a brd for cakewalk mode

[AzazaelFenrir]

flesh takes -90% PDT when hundred fists isn't on and loves to eat mages when HF is on, if you have enough people to stunlock it you can manaburn it down pretty fast, if not it's pretty ugly

the best lowman strat i've found for it is to bring it to a zone on nin, get double mambos, and have a blm zone nuke(4men, nin rdm blm brd)

skeleton is laughable, rdm can solo, rdm + mnk can duo.. add a brd for cakewalk mode

I saw your solo, which is what frustrates me, cause it should be a lot easier than it is currently is for us.

[Novax]

Mnk+Blu is very easy as well, can add Whm for security.

[Windfoxster]

what setups are people using for the T2 STR ring mobs? We keep having a hard time on the Skelly. The flesh is burnable though right?

Skele : solo/duo by rdms
Toad: Duo by 2 rdm/nin. At least for beaud glacier, by having 1 rdm on the outside of tower and one inside. Bounce it by nuking. As for xarc, stonewall is too short of a distance for HF to wear between bounce. Thinking of using the demon stand, yet to try though.

[Thorny]

If you're duoing toad on RDM, just use powder boots for hundred fists. I'm sure it's not that hard a fight, but significantly slower and seems they have people available.

[Cairthenn]

Alright, I know a sample size of two is abysmal, but it seems peculiar compared to my horrendous drop rates on Blue abyssite. Has anybody not gotten Purple abyssite on "Erebus defeats Erebus."? I'm pretty sure it's just dumb luck, but you never know..

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[grozny]

For the T2s, it is just random on what NM you will get?

[ZhiGaruda]

Yacumama doesn't have hate decay from what I've seen. Just during his 2hr, most people bleed all their enmity away. I nin eva tank all tier 2, and just use smns for hateless dmg, works really well. Capricornus's dive move has a hate reset for whoever it's targeting.

I actually did it PLD/RDM, RDM/BLM, THF/DNC, THF/NIN, and during the first 2hour, I popped Sentinel and followed with a Flash -> Atonement. Almost immediately (mind you, I'm getting hit for 0's here) he goes for the THF/NIN and sticks to him until he dies, then after the THF/DNC until he dies, almost kills my RDM/BLM mule and then finally came back to me.

[recuperi]

I actually did it PLD/RDM, RDM/BLM, THF/DNC, THF/NIN, and during the first 2hour, I popped Sentinel and followed with a Flash -> Atonement. Almost immediately (mind you, I'm getting hit for 0's here) he goes for the THF/NIN and sticks to him until he dies, then after the THF/DNC until he dies, almost kills my RDM/BLM mule and then finally came back to me.

I had something odd going on with Yacumama last night too, but it wasn't really about hate decay. IIRC it was PLD/nin, rdm x2 whm smn. Every time the summoner went to do a Predator Claws on it, it'd completely forget about everything else and go after him. Happened once on hundred fists and killed him (3rd HF i think) and afterward it didn't go after him at all.

Also, I think the pugil can occasionally spawn glitched or something. I fought it in the same setup yesterday, and it apparently lacked job abilities. The whole fight, all it did was swing at me. There weren't any TP moves or 2 hours to be had. That all happened in East Ronfaure in the present

[NervosaEternal]

Quick question cause im not sure if its posted somewhere in here, but does krabkatoa rage? my ls fought it this morning and the battle drug on about an hour when we saw increased damage from the scissor move, and it began spamming it like mad, it was the only thing it would use lol, anyone know anything about this?

[Thorny]

Quick question cause im not sure if its posted somewhere in here, but does krabkatoa rage? my ls fought it this morning and the battle drug on about an hour when we saw increased damage from the scissor move, and it began spamming it like mad, it was the only thing it would use lol, anyone know anything about this?

At least now we know why you want to join Lovebanana. I don't believe it rages, someone said ruthven depops after a set time period.. pointless to have both that and rage.