Version Update: What did SE break this time? [Shit's Borked reports go HERE]

[Darkmoon]

Here is a follow up pic of what i was saying above with Yoichi vs Ebow.

again this is a small sample of it, nakid they were close on damage, about 10~ more for ebow. When they put on this gear, Ebow pulled away form Yoichi quickly...

Both are standing exactly 10.0 from mob, (Giantobugard) and both are using pot-au-feu.

Ebow damage is circled in green, Yoichi in red

http://bl.bjace.com/Portals/0/Forums.../EbowvsYoi.JPG

[dejet]

they are both the same race right ~_~? no one has more merits then the other? the dmg is not that far off if say it was a elf vs a tar or something.

[smafdi]

Both are elf and have 5 str merits i know for sure, don't know if lacan has 8 archery merits, but i do know nayla does.

[Darkmoon]

They are both Elvaan, sadly the Ebow has only 4/5 STR merits, and only 4/8 Archery... The Yoichi is 5/ STR 8/8 Archery.

so it even further shows that somthing is wrong with yoichi

[Byrthnoth]

So, Ebow player has 2 STR and 6 RAtk more than the Yoichi user pre-Pot, but the Yoichi user should have at least a ~10 base damage advantage.

Bugards are one of the strange families with a Defense modifier:
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Defense

I'd repeat the test with Berserk up, as Ranged Attack is the only thing I can think of that has the potential to cause any difference in this situation. I doubt it will though >.<;

[Darkmoon]

We will test again tonight with zerk up on a diffrent mob, the Yoichi actually also has the first trial done, so its 12 base damage diffrent.. We had first thought the trial messed things up, but we tested it side by side with another Yoichi that had no trials started and they did the exact same damage (which is also a bit odd, since the one with trial done should at least do a point or two more due to base damage you would think...)

Again we saw these results initialy on Medusa, we also do Dynamis-Tav a lot and have a lot of parses of it, so Thursday we should be able to get a pare to see just how diffrent it is.

[Clerix]

Is there something broke with spellcast?

Was running spellcast today and after like an hour, I tried to review my log (to see if something wore) and everything disappeared. Couldn't see any chat etc.

It only happened when i used spellcast.

[DAKPluto]

Is there something broke with spellcast?

Was running spellcast today and after like an hour, I tried to review my log (to see if something wore) and everything disappeared. Couldn't see any chat etc.

It only happened when i used spellcast.

This is an old flaw, been around long before spellcast. It's a problem with the chat hook that Cliff said long time is actually a problem with SEs coding, not Windower's. Until SE fixes the problem it happens on occasion, although less frequently these days. There is no solution, and you have to restart to recover it.

[Isindil]

I posted this in the Relic Augment thread but may be better here.


Possibly messed up Augment on Yoichinoumi....(or just Yoichi)

Went to kill Medusa tonight for a person that needed title. My Girlfriend has finished Trial 1 for Bow and working on second. She noticed that she was doing less per arrow then our E.Bow RNG and Selele's bow RNG. Checked food, buffs, etc. Everything was fine. Just doing crap damage.

We tested a few situations last night.

Nakid side by side with another Yoichi holder. They did very similar damage, but he usually did 2-5 more (even though his has no trials started/done, and hers has 1st done (+2DMG))

Second we tried the same relic vrs an Ebow. Wore no gear at all and the numbers were:
Ebow 295, 299, 299
Relic: 279, 275, 281

Third was vs same Ebow with some gear on both (Orc Helm, Osode, Skadi feet)
Ebow: 325, 328, 321
Relic: 287, 284, 286


Anyone else getting some goofy Yoichi results?
all these tests were with Velocity shot and Pot-au-feu, done on Gigantobugard.

I have more data, and screen shots, I'm at work atm, but will try to complie the Screen shots into a easy to see format.

2 Rangers in my linkshell are experiencing similar results with Annihilator v. Hellfire+1.

They both have annihilator and are complaining about their damage being way less. So they took HF+1 and Annihilator out to test on different mobs. Hellfire consistently did more max/min dmg. Buffs like Chaos Roll/Minuet etc had no effect on ranged damage with Annihilator.

One of them made a GM call regarding the problem and GM just directed him to support.na.square-enix.com (the normal customer support web site). Both of them are submitting a report on that page. I suggest you do the same because something is messed up with the Ranged Relics.

edit: forgot to mention that neither of them have magian quest done, but both have the first trial active.

[Darkmoon]

2 Rangers in my linkshell are experiencing similar results with Annihilator v. Hellfire+1.

They both have annihilator and are complaining about their damage being way less. So they took HF+1 and Annihilator out to test on different mobs. Hellfire consistently did more max/min dmg. Buffs like Chaos Roll/Minuet etc had no effect on ranged damage with Annihilator.

One of them made a GM call regarding the problem and GM just directed him to support.na.square-enix.com (the normal customer support web site). Both of them are submitting a report on that page. I suggest you do the same because something is messed up with the Ranged Relics.

edit: forgot to mention that neither of them have magian quest done, but both have the first trial active.

It seems like they accidently made relic ranged weapons use FSTR1 instead of FSTR2..... that or messed up weapon ranks, i didnt feel like doing to math to decide which..

[Nayla]

I'm finally glad some other relic rangers are noticing this.. was starting to feel like I was the only one ._. I actually dont understand how more people havent noticed their damage drop..first arrow I shot after update @ medussa and knew something was seriously wrong with yoichi.. 117 max per arrow fully buffed with food/cor/brd, and im getting outdamaged by an ebow and selene's bow ranger.. not even possible. Hopefully more people will submit a report asap, cause I've been seriously Q_Q all week lol

[Clerix]

This is an old flaw, been around long before spellcast. It's a problem with the chat hook that Cliff said long time is actually a problem with SEs coding, not Windower's. Until SE fixes the problem it happens on occasion, although less frequently these days. There is no solution, and you have to restart to recover it.

Oh, okay, thanks.

[Khamsin]

This is an old flaw, been around long before spellcast. It's a problem with the chat hook that Cliff said long time is actually a problem with SEs coding, not Windower's. Until SE fixes the problem it happens on occasion, although less frequently these days. There is no solution, and you have to restart to recover it.

Not really a "problem" with SE's coding, considering it never happens when not using Windower, and the code isn't meant to be compatible with Windower.

If it works when used as intended, there's no problem.

[Villian]

I've notice weird damage with slugshot on colibri camp usually. Kclub/hellfire +1 with sushi and staying around 2-3', with or without minuet is still ~1101. Couldn't break that number unless I have chaos roll, ratt food, or velo shot/flashy shot on.

[Seraphise]

This is a lot of 'take my word for it' stuff so i'm more or less trying to see if anyone can explain it to me / confirm similar instances. At serket the other day I think when serket killed someone else I died with him through shared damage? I know it sounds weird and like I said I don't have a lot to back me up. I didn't have any chat filters on and I didn't have poison on, I just reraised and hid in the back tunnel far away from serket. You'll see in the ss that my stoneskin and blink wore off at the same time and I died within a second of those wearing and the same time as the other member of the alliance died. http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/624...0331180947.png
Heres the image with time stamps. If you'll notice I am far back in the tunnel away from where the melee was fighting serket

[Vodou]

I'm finally glad some other relic rangers are noticing this.. was starting to feel like I was the only one ._. I actually dont understand how more people havent noticed their damage drop..first arrow I shot after update @ medussa and knew something was seriously wrong with yoichi.. 117 max per arrow fully buffed with food/cor/brd, and im getting outdamaged by an ebow and selene's bow ranger.. not even possible. Hopefully more people will submit a report asap, cause I've been seriously Q_Q all week lol

Yes, yoichi has been screwed somehow. It's pretty obvious. The damage just doesn't make sense compared to other bows.

[Auspice]

Found an apparent glitch with the gobbie in Port Jeuno selling key items for expansions. A couple of days ago I did the seed collecting in Fei Yin to get the key but later a group wanted to do the Fei Yin BC so I went to the gobbie in PJ and bought the Mark of Seed. When I got to the BC it wouldn't let me enter and when one of the guys in my group clicked, he got in. We both bought the Mark of Seed at the same time. When I got in, my Mark of Seed wasn't consumed and when we won I didn't get a reward. I spent half an hour talking to a GM and detailing everything I'd done in game for the past hour to submit this to the dev team. As usual, GM wasn't able to do anything and told me basically I was fucked and might not be able to do the BC and get a reward. Thankfully the next day I was able to use the Mark of Seed and collect the reward as intended. Seems like snagging the key instead of the Mark of Seed from clicking the ???s jewed me out of entering somehow even though I bought the key.

[TheMysteriousX]

Found an apparent glitch with the gobbie in Port Jeuno selling key items for expansions. A couple of days ago I did the seed collecting in Fei Yin to get the key but later a group wanted to do the Fei Yin BC so I went to the gobbie in PJ and bought the Mark of Seed. When I got to the BC it wouldn't let me enter and when one of the guys in my group clicked, he got in. We both bought the Mark of Seed at the same time. When I got in, my Mark of Seed wasn't consumed and when we won I didn't get a reward. I spent half an hour talking to a GM and detailing everything I'd done in game for the past hour to submit this to the dev team. As usual, GM wasn't able to do anything and told me basically I was fucked and might not be able to do the BC and get a reward. Thankfully the next day I was able to use the Mark of Seed and collect the reward as intended. Seems like snagging the key instead of the Mark of Seed from clicking the ???s jewed me out of entering somehow even though I bought the key.

I'm pretty sure you can only complete the BC/hunt for the items once per RL day.

EDIT: from otherwiki:

• If you obtain the Azure Key, you will be unable to obtain the Mark of Seed until you use it at the Treasure Coffer in the Tenshodo HQ and wait until the following Earth day (Japanese midnight).

[NynJa]

Sent in my feedback towards the ranged relics...whats my POL email

[Meian]

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/pol...ews18810.shtml

As of the Mar. 23, 2010 version update, we have confirmed the following issue. Investigation and recovery work is currently underway. We ask for your patience in this matter until this issue is resolved.

[Current Known Issue]
- The damage of the following ranged weapons is lower than intended:
Annihilator / Yoichinoyumi / Gastraphetes / Death Penalty / Sparrow / Kestrel / Astrild / Goshawk / Gyrfalcon / Thunderstick / Blue Steel /Magnatus / Dragonmaw / Huracan

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.