Hydra Corps?

[LinktheDeme]

Apparently I missed the memo when we had a Halloween trident wielding member of the Hydra Corps. Was this just a joke to troll us all?

[Yugl]

Hydra Corps are the ones seen in Relic armor. The other people were just apart of the fight.

[LinktheDeme]

That would make more sense, I thought it was everyone who came in the room ( I assumed she came in with the guttler bst)

[Rocl]

You are dumb. The people in AF2 w/ Relic weapons are the Hydra Corps. Haja Zhwan (the mithra you spoke of) is a Mithra Mercenary, and related to Naja Zhwan, who is our fearless Wildcat Mercenary Master.

[Lucavi]

Still surprised there was never a quest chain to "redeem" the hydra corps back in the past. Dunno if I like the idea of only having the option to kill or be killed by brave soldiers that went wtfapeshit out of grief and madness from being stuck in a perpetual war-zone dream world.

Oh well: Loot >> Lore, I guess. Kill em, loot the bodies, and move on.

[ronin sparthos]

Still surprised there was never a quest chain to "redeem" the hydra corps back in the past. Dunno if I like the idea of only having the option to kill or be killed by brave soldiers that went wtfapeshit out of grief and madness from being stuck in a perpetual war-zone dream world.

Oh well: Loot >> Lore, I guess. Kill em, loot the bodies, and move on.

When I get credit for stopping Promathia and saving the middle lands as we know it from the princes duo, Bahamut AND Razfahd i'll stop killing tortured souls in Dynamis.

[Lucavi]

Yeah, FFXI's style of "onlooker, but never hero" is nonsense. The NPCs (sans Prishe) are some of the laziest fuckers in MMO history. They'd be content to sit around town forever without us pushing their lazy asses from one CS to another.

[Gergall]

When I get credit for stopping Promathia and saving the middle lands as we know it from the princes duo, Bahamut AND Razfahd i'll stop killing tortured souls in Dynamis.

Did you not receive thanks yous such as rings and earrings for completing those tasks?

Lucavi: Maybe true compared to an offline RPG, but compared to other MMOs, FFXI gives the player a tremendous amount of "hero status" in the cutscenes.

[Spira]

definitely agree with Gergall on this point.

FFXI is actually the only MMO that gives players a huge amount of hero status within its story itself.

Play any other MMO and you'll notice that the only story that plays is the back story, and the player is usually never even mentioned, and just tags along.. chasing after the story.

[Lucavi]

Really? I seem to hear a lot of "All Hail Gaiasfist!" and "Welcome back, Champion!" from my questgivers elsewhere.

Only thing I can really remember in FFXI was the town dudes buttering me up after dumping 10k fangs in their coffers.

[Gustaf the Voidbringer]

Hero status or not, the game seems to enjoy constantly tossing the Idiot Ball to our player character. JRPGs are filled with decent silent protagonists, and FFXI's attempt strikes me as almost insulting.

I mean, really, are those constant /shocked emotes needed?

edit: I forgot it's an FF tradition to have moronic protagonists.

[Lucavi]

Damn, I forgot about the Hume /shocked emote. Hahaha.

Shit just screams "OOHHHHH!!" like in the old Speed Racer dubs.

[Rocl]

Lilisette isn't really lazy, she fights with us, when she's around that is..

[Lucavi]

I haven't been introduced to her yet, or rather, I never was.

[Rocl]

OK? I mean, its true Lion/Aldo kind of just looked at you fight in RoZ, but it comes to the point eventually when Trion, Ajido, and Volker take up arms with you in the nation quests. Before that you're an errand boy basically so it makes sense that they wouldn't be doing the same things you would!

CoP, Prishe only comes to help you at the very end. I daresay since Lilisette's appearances in BCNMs is more frequent, it makes Prishe the lazy one. She only felt the need to actually fight with us when we were fighting a god. Thanks.

TOAU, I mean I can see why Nashmiera didn't fight. If she fell in battle there'd be terrible consequences (but if Alexander managed to 'judge' all of Aht Urhgan, they would be worse I s'pose.)

Speaking of which... why is it always a heroine we fight with? Ugh!

[Yugl]

Speaking of which... why is it always a heroine we fight with? Ugh!

Adventurers' assistance isn't needed where men take up the battle.

Edit: Davilles could solo all of Wings.

[Lucavi]

Zazarg could have soloed Divine Might. Campaign was merely a setback!

[Gergall]

CoP, Prishe only comes to help you at the very end.

There's definitely a cutscene where she dropkicks somebody. I don't recall more details than that.

[Lucavi]

Damn. Prishe and her dropkicks. I would have loved to have seen some NPC-centered PVP with two sides. Watching Prishe dropkick everyone for maxxu damagu would have been epic.

[Spira]

I dunno what it is with FFXI and its mission girls, but each expansion has only 1, and it has to be a girl somehow. Guess its a cliche they're choosing to use.

Lion doesnt technically fight with you in any battles (tho i bet they hadnt figured out how to implement that well into BCs back in Zilart era) but she does save you from the Throne Room when the Ark Angels descend. She did try to fight the Zilart brothers but wasn't that successful, and she did sacrifice her life to save Vana'diel too. She didn't actually die, but still.

Prishe was the stubborn brash girl. I liked her more than Lion but then Lion never really did get much development. She proved to be kickass with her MNK/WHM capabilities.
I don't think she ever saves you in any way though. Not that I can remember.

Nashmeira was actually my favourite girl since she's actually a lady who cannot fight. She does however show much concern for the player and has the weight of a kingdom on her shoulders. I liked her innocent royalty realizing the harshness of the world story. Also she kinda manipulates Alexander to stop Ragnarok from happening.

Lilisette is not bad. Very feisty and perky but also a bit too cheerful at times. Most recently she reminded me of Vanille lol.

I'm guessing theres some sexist JP chauvanist mechanism at work that continues this tradition but I don't think I'd have it any other way...