Random Question Thread

[Souj]

So I'm fucked because can't back track and get the spark ring and should stop all attempts to gather all the other accessories and weapon upgrades? Huzzah.

[Kyo]

You can also dismantle the lighting charm, for the spark ring.

[Kyo]

Not sure how you missed the spark ring while going through the story, the chest was on the main path, you didnt really have to deviate.

[Moridam]

I can understand having problems with the Long Guis, but the Shenlongs?

They're very easy, aslong as you switch to SEN/SEN/SEN at every special move. Using the strat Atreides posted.

yes, sometimes switching to tortoise helps, but more often than not it doesn't matter what i do, the thing goes apeshit and i can't do anything to recover (even if i swapped to sen/sen/sen before the initial hit). usually does bay > ultima > debuffs wear > stomp = game over.

its really fucking annoying

[Kyo]

Slow and Daze are your friends on the Shen Long Gui's.

[Souj]

Not sure how you missed the spark ring while going through the story, the chest was on the main path, you didnt really have to deviate.

maybe I had it and sold it. I was really good about going every path I could to find all the chests. I really don't see how I would have missed it if it was on the main path, but I didnt sell anything at all unless I had extras of it. Maybe I sold it accidentally.

[Bartylby]

get that fire charm and find out

you'll know if you get the trophy

[Souj]

get that fire charm and find out

you'll know if you get the trophy

Oh I still have a long ways to go, I just have all the base items. I still need to upgrade a lot of stuff, especially weapons.

[Kyo]

He would still have had to upgrade the spark ring, and you dont just get the trophy once you have everything upgraded, you have to go to Oerba and talk to bhakti.

[Kyo]

But Souj if you have no way of getting a spark ring again, going to be a waste of time to upgrade everything and not get the trophy. Only other way besides the chest in Lake Bresha is from dismantling a lighting charm.

[Bartylby]

he could have the second tier lightning res ring and upgrade that. but yea he'd have to dismantle the lightning charm for sure if he's not sure he got the ring in bresha

[Kyo]

That's correct, to get the third stage, you get a fulmen ring from hunt 6, but if he missed the spark ring, his only way to obtain it again is dismantling a fully upgraded lighting charm.

[Souj]

I was just looking over everything, and I have 3 Fulmen rings. So, I really gotta assume I did have at least 1 spark ring and just randomly upgraded it lol.

[Kyo]

That would be my best guess.

[Plow]

I can understand having problems with the Long Guis, but the Shenlongs?

They're very easy, aslong as you switch to SEN/SEN/SEN at every special move. Using the strat Atreides posted.


Open with SEN/SEN/SEN to absorb Quake. Switch to SAB/SAB/SYN, and manually spam Slow, since the AI is too stupid to use it on their own. You might have to heal once if the debuffs are slow to land. After Deprot/Deshell/Slow/Imperil are up, manually spam Daze. Right as it lands, cancel the rest of your casts. It lasts quite a while.

SYN/SYN/SYN and buff whatever's missing, Enfire rapes these things. SAB/RAV/RAV and keep spamming Daze while your RAVs stagger it, it'll stop an attack or two.
Drive the chain gauge as high you like, and then switch to COM/COM/RAV. It likes to use Bay/Ultima at around 50% HP, just be ready for it, Bay can really fuck you up.

With ~3100 STR on Fang I was hitting them for ~400k, they go down in just a few rounds of attacks.

Er... Shaolong are harder than long, at least long don't knock you to 5% while you're about to highwind.

And yeah as to all the buffs, like I said, I've sat there with full defensive gear on fang, full fresh protectra and shellra, 100% hp, and died basically instantly to Bay > ultima while sitting in tortoise.

Let alone the fact that even if it was humanly possible to switch > heal > get back to tortoise... you're fucking fogged and pained after bay and couldn't do shit anyway.

[Trocian]

And yeah as to all the buffs, like I said, I've sat there with full defensive gear on fang, full fresh protectra and shellra, 100% hp, and died basically instantly to Bay > ultima while sitting in tortoise.

This seems strange, are you far from having a capped Crystarium?

you're fucking fogged and pained after bay and couldn't do shit anyway.

This I agree on, it's a bit of a gamble. Usually I can survive the Bay and the following stomp, though.

[Souj]

Ive had problems with Fang getting 1 shotted as well, except only when not buffed. It was really weird for me, because both Fang and Hope would be unbuffed, but Fang would die and hope would live.

[Moridam]

yeah, even with some defensive accessories, full crystarium, full buffs, and max health in sent/sent/sent... sometimes i just get completely demolished no matter what. damage from pretty much all of this guy's moves seems really random to me.

ah well, i had some crazy luck and managed to collect all of my dark matters in the course of about an hour, so i guess i'm done with these guys for now :D

[Plow]

This seems strange, are you far from having a capped Crystarium?

completely capped

Ive had problems with Fang getting 1 shotted as well, except only when not buffed. It was really weird for me, because both Fang and Hope would be unbuffed, but Fang would die and hope would live.

The thing is, it's not getting 1 shotted that's the issue. I've actually figured out how that happens, so maybe can help you there:

If you're under the turtle's foot when it stomps, and you paradigm shift right as it happens, you get hit twice. Without protect that's 2x ~13k dmg happening instantly from 1 stomp.


My problem is getting 2 shotted while fully buffed and sitting in triple sen by bay>ultima from shaolong and roar>ultima from long, so fast that there's no possible way I could heal in between.

I've got a system worked out now that seems to be doing OK, and I need to try out lightning as main so I can enfire.

But basically I can handle shaolong through raw speed now, even if it takes a couple tries, and then use that TP so that I only have to knock down Longs once, and summon as soon as they get up.


I had no idea enfire would put you at numbers like 400k/swing, my fang sits at 3500+ str + bravera and has been doing like 140k per swing at 999% lol

[Sign]

I had a hell of a time getting out of the old FF mindset of ignoring most buffs/debuffs. It is awesome how effective they have made them in this game.