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  1. #161
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    You can do everything when you get back to Pulse - you could basically leave everything intact when you get to Ch.11 and just go with the story

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    OK so, I'm trying to get my growth egg... and the Ochu is just absolutely raping me in the face.

    And not just that, but death WILL NOT fucking land.


    Like, at first I was just trying to go in sab/sen/med as is, but either Vanille would just get 1 shot instantly upon fight starting, or fang would get raped in the face no matter how much healing she got after ~10 seconds.

    So I started using aegisols, fang would still die too early too often.

    So I started using aegisols + the haste one so more healing.

    Now I can last like... 15-20 seconds maybe... using a Renew and everything.


    So in like 30+ minutes of tries once I got to where I was lasting a good 15-20 seconds or so, I never got death to land, ever.

    wtf am I missing here? I'm just tossing up imperil and spamming death until I wipe pretty much.

    I have 7k+ hp on my vanille atm, and like 6k + major reduction on fang, and vanille has morbol wand *.

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    You need more damage reduction for Fang (I used Snow though, he has more HP).

    The damage done is not an issue with like 2-3 maxed general belts and a black belt on top of it. Consider equipping Vanille with some too, to be safe.

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    The damage reduction cap for magic and physical is 69%. I tried to do it before beating the game and unlocking stage 5 and I died quitea few times as well, I came back right after I beat the game and got death to land on the third cast.

    I used Van/Hope/Snow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyan View Post
    You need more damage reduction for Fang (I used Snow though, he has more HP).

    The damage done is not an issue with like 2-3 maxed general belts and a black belt on top of it. Consider equipping Vanille with some too, to be safe.
    I only have 3 acc slots thus far.

    And unfortunately I don't have any upgraded acc's, just normal ones.

    Vanille has 2x hp (for 900 total) and haste belt, fang has I think 2 of the 5/5 and one bb. I guess I should switch fang to 3 bb, I was thinking one of the attacks is magic for some reason.

    But yeah I'm also having issues with vanille or hope getting smacked down before shit even matters, or after about 15-20 sec.


    I know I'm kind of early to be doing this (start of ch 13), but I really want to have my egg for going through chapter 13, and so I don't have to backtrack at the "point of no return" in order to farm the last hall.

    I also quite honestly don't want to be too beefy going through it (ch13) the first time.

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    I took you guys' advice and went with Snow, and filled out any gaps in his HP from crystarium and so yeah, he's almost 10k hp now lol, and grabbed 3x 15% physical rings for him.

    I'm now lasting to the "Roar" thing (which is insta-wipe for me, period) about 30-45 seconds in every time, but I'm having no luck landing Death at all.

    Any ideas? Thanks!

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    The only way I know how to dampen the blow with such little hp is to go sen/sen/sen, or you can try to get a summon off, so your party can pretty much reset. The Ochu does have magic based attacks, like roar and I think it has some kind of breath IIRC. But you should have a few royal armlets by now, I think I had 2 or three, those fully upgraded area very useful. Going to want those later on anyway for turtles.

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    Oh, there's no hope for me surviving the roar. It 1 shots my entire party, even a full hp snow with 30% more hp than anyone else), plus aegisol will wear off not long after even if I could somehow survive.

    Basically now I'm fine on surviving until it, which gives me like a good 10 death casts per battle, I just need to figure out how to get it to actually land lol.

    I've killed several adamantoise with it very easily (I think I'm 3 out of 5 tries for getting death to land before it stands up), but that's easier because I can stack mass debuffs and have fang maintain them while I spam death.

    I don't mind just sitting there dying to it over and over until it lands heh, gives me back my aegisol anyway ^.~

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    There really is nothing to it besides luck, stack imperil, deprotect, deshell and pray pretty much.

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    Oh I thought it was immune to depro/shell lol, I haven't gotten them to land. That should help heh.

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    You can check via your datalog, but I was almost certain you could stack those on the ochu, might be the one from 39 Im thinking about however.

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    Yeah, the Neochu (I assume you're talking about this?) is a bastard. Took me about 15 tries with Death trick, but this was before I mastered anything.

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    He's talking about the ochu aki, not turtles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyo View Post
    He's talking about the ochu aki, not turtles.
    Yeah, I edited my post out and fixed it.

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    Finally got it, fight ended up taking like 20 mins because I screwed up paradigms and only sen+med+dps I had was Vanille as her shitty COM with att/ruin only that I only use for chain maintenance lol.

    Crazy shit tho, with Snow having ~9.5k hp and 46% physical reduction he hovered between 3-6k for most of the fight lol.

    Oh and yeah it is immune to everything except imperil and death.

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    random... Do you ever get to fight Bismarck? Bakthi keeps mentioning that dumb ProTip about the Syllua Springs(?) and to be careful when walking near the water's edge. I drag my ass around that entire area and haven't found anything other than that very first sighting of him.

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    No, you dont fight him, all you fight is those extra stones he puts up with the orobans and the creepy frog guys

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    doing titan's trials right now for the heck of it, everything is pretty much a cake walk except for the triple tonberry's, the closest i've gotten is deceptisol>stagger>kill 1 but even staggered they take too long to kill and i can barely put a dent into the second one by the time they be takin me out. my dudes are all capped at stage 9 in 2 of there specs.

    btw is plow talking about the ocho near/otw to the trials?

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    also want to ask about upgrading acc's. some people mention wearing haste boots (hermes sandals??) etc but i dont see the point? when u upgrade them do they fire more then once during a battle?

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    Hermes upgrade to sprint shoes which cast haste at the start instead of when you get low.

    And I was talking about the Ochu for mission... 55 I think? Where you get the growth egg.

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