Botters Beware!

[Tagus]

I think Kitkat on Phoenix is the only guy I actually knew in game who got an EBody in Einherjar. And that's over YEARS of playing ffxi. Einherjar was definitely not as good of a solution as people claim it was.

[Cairthenn]

I think Kitkat on Phoenix is the only guy I actually knew in game who got an EBody in Einherjar. And that's over YEARS of playing ffxi. Einherjar was definitely not as good of a solution as people claim it was.

It's one Odin every two weeks if your Linkshell doesn't suck. Pretty good system, really.

[NervosaEternal]

Well its either odin or kings, if you dont bot, odin is the way to go

[Weeks]

25-30 guys getting an E. Body every 3 weeks didn't fix Nidhogg, and they haven't even made an attempt at fixing the King Behemoth problem. Square can fix their mess one of two ways: Get aggressive about banning cheaters, or make the rewards obsolete. I think we know the first one isn't happening, but we can hope they keep putting minimal upgrades like Ninurta's Sash into the game, and hopefully the new upper-level events will make them common enough that we can just forget about the last six years.

[Cooleko]

All of todays bots are trash. I miss the mrargus days

tbh, mr argus is what the non packet bots are using, what you realy miss are mrzone, and the times before claim delays...

Edit: forgot to mention punisher.

[Mojo]

Yeah, we can. Every post that you make in regards to botting is an effort to save face, because you botted and RMT'd your ass off. If you don't think that people have realized this by now, I just wanted to let you know that yes, we realize that justifications can be made by those with a willingness to do so, and yes, it has it's benefits for people willing to go that route. We're glad it worked for you. Now please shut the fuck up. Everything that you say, every argument you make, and every statement that you support or ignore is designed to support botting. We know how you feel, and your posts are worthless as a result of the fucking ridiculous bias that you put on everything.

It's never been an attempt to 'save face,' you're just a self righteous douche. It seems like it's impossible for me to make a single post regarding RMT or botting without you showing up and spewing out personal attacks. You might be aware of my opinion on the matter, but not everybody has had the time to scrutinize every post I've made on BG. Either way, unless you're willing to intelligently defend what you have to say (i.e. why blame botters?,) then you might as well just shut the fuck up because all you have to say is conceited garbage which we've all heard again and again.

[Draylo]

Yeah, we can. Every post that you make in regards to botting is an effort to save face, because you botted and RMT'd your ass off. If you don't think that people have realized this by now, I just wanted to let you know that yes, we realize that justifications can be made by those with a willingness to do so, and yes, it has it's benefits for people willing to go that route. We're glad it worked for you. Now please shut the fuck up. Everything that you say, every argument you make, and every statement that you support or ignore is designed to support botting. We know how you feel, and your posts are worthless as a result of the fucking ridiculous bias that you put on everything.

I agree, great post. They all do this every single time a thread like this pops up. "Who cares about bots" "Lol FFXI is dead" <-- was an old favorite they used. Generally they toss it all into the "Who cares" category, yet obviously people still do care. I really hope SE can do something to fix the issue, either ban hammer or create gear that will make that shit obsolete. With these new updates pushing the level cap to a high enough level that those NM's are a laughable joke, I hope they add more instanced content that requires good players and not players who can bot. Lets face it people, everyone at this stage that is competent enough can kill those HNM's with ease. It isn't about skill anymore in that stage, its about bots and being able to claim. Sure you can say there are people who will still wipe to them, but who cares if its instanced? If future content that rewards players for skill, not ability to claim, has good gear then the people who are able to kill that shit now will still benefit from it without having to resort to cheating and blocking other players out of content.

[Baelorn]

Orrrrr join an Einherjar ls, just a thought...

Einherjar on Phoenix is pretty annoying...There's only one event shell that consistently does Odin and, obviously, that shell is almost always full. The other shells are all-around endgame/HNM shells or shells that have no chance of winning and just rotate people looking to get ichor to fill runs.

The JPs here run einherjar more like dynamis and seem to be doing pretty well judging by the number of gimp JP DRGs with V Forks.

[Draylo]

It's never been an attempt to 'save face,' you're just a self righteous douche. It seems like it's impossible for me to make a single post regarding RMT or botting without you showing up and spewing out personal attacks. You might be aware of my opinion on the matter, but not everybody has had the time to scrutinize every post I've made on BG. Either way, unless you're willing to intelligently defend what you have to say (i.e. why blame botters?,) then you might as well just shut the fuck up because all you have to say is conceited garbage which we've all heard again and again.

Why blame botters? Because you perpetuate the problem? That is like saying why blame gil buyers... They both fall into the same category. I think we have all heard again and again the same argument that you are trying to defend as well. Who cares, bots aren't evil, bots this bots that, etc.

[Mojo]

I agree, great post. They all do this every single time a thread like this pops up. "Who cares about bots" "Lol FFXI is dead" <-- was an old favorite they used. Generally they toss it all into the "Who cares" category, yet obviously people still do care. I really hope SE can do something to fix the issue, either ban hammer or create gear that will make that shit obsolete. With these new updates pushing the level cap to a high enough level that those NM's are a laughable joke, I hope they add more instanced content that requires good players and not players who can bot. Lets face it people, everyone at this stage that is competent enough can kill those HNM's with ease. It isn't about skill anymore in that stage, its about bots and being able to claim. Sure you can say there are people who will still wipe to them, but who cares if its instanced? If future content that rewards players for skill, not ability to claim, has good gear then the people who are able to kill that shit now will still benefit from it without having to resort to cheating and blocking other players out of content.

Seems like you're assuming that claiming is fair before botting.

[Aurara]

I agree, great post. They all do this every single time a thread like this pops up. "Who cares about bots" "Lol FFXI is dead" <-- was an old favorite they used. Generally they toss it all into the "Who cares" category, yet obviously people still do care. I really hope SE can do something to fix the issue, either ban hammer or create gear that will make that shit obsolete. With these new updates pushing the level cap to a high enough level that those NM's are a laughable joke, I hope they add more instanced content that requires good players and not players who can bot. Lets face it people, everyone at this stage that is competent enough can kill those HNM's with ease. It isn't about skill anymore in that stage, its about bots and being able to claim. Sure you can say there are people who will still wipe to them, but who cares if its instanced? If future content that rewards players for skill, not ability to claim, has good gear then the people who are able to kill that shit now will still benefit from it without having to resort to cheating and blocking other players out of content.

you're so mad, its sad

[Draylo]

I am not mad at all, I am stating my opinion like everyone else in this thread.

[shepardG]

I will admit I bot.... but it's a different kind of botting. Not nearly as secure, but alot more skill involved. Also explosives.

Spoiler: show

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[Aurara]

If you werent mad, you wouldnt be pushing so hard for this "issue" to be fixed.

[Draylo]

If you werent mad, you wouldnt be pushing so hard for this "issue" to be fixed.

How am I pushing so hard? Do you see me going around forum to forum starting up a petition? Am I creating new threads everyday or at any time even? No, I am not. I am simply posting in a thread relating to the issue. You obviously have nothing to contribute, so I think you are mad.

[Mojo]

mad words

[Draylo]

Seems like you're assuming that claiming is fair before botting.

Don't understand what you mean.

[Aurara]

How am I pushing so hard? Do you see me going around forum to forum starting up a petition? Am I creating new threads everyday or at any time even? No, I am not. I am simply posting in a thread relating to the issue. You obviously have nothing to contribute, so I think you are mad.

I'm not mad, i just think its funny how hard people cry about bots ruining this game and cheating them out of content, when a majority of those players have NEVER camped hnm in their life, and sit in WG and bitch and moan about how they deserve gear they have never even attempted to get.

[Mojo]

Don't understand what you mean.

Well, to be more clear, explain precisely why you think botting is 'wrong,' and I can explain what I meant better.

[Raen Ryong]

- Braggart botters. Botting is acceptable, and your bot > their bot. E-thug. Make sure to tell everyone. You're a moron, the only one allowed to brag about bots is the guy who made a car's worth of money with it.

Honestly it's usually this kind of botter who seems "mad". They always have to jump over anyone who opposes botting in any way, shape or form (even indifference).