Botters Beware!

**nitsuj** · 2010-03-27 20:44

Originally Posted by avelle

I wish I could tell you. I've tried everything, posted on windower and bg tech threads about it and nobody knows. PC runs games like Aion at full settings 1920x1200 with 0 lagging issues. Whitegate/Aery/Etc all get fps in the teens. It's pretty neat.

It's ok, my overclocked i5-750 is sitting at 6fps in whitegate right now. I think they're full of shit, unless they have stock texture resolution, which should almost definitely push them up.

But you're not going to get 30fps in Dynamis + Whitegate with 2048x2048 background resolution unless SE offloads some more of the rendering to the video card, maybe.

**Belkin** · 2010-03-28 01:37

How to shoot web ?

I approve of this thread.

**shepardG** · 2010-03-28 01:43

Originally Posted by thetruepandagod

Shepard can you forgive me and come back to ls and be main dnc.

Spoiler is for panda and the rest of IIzerg.

Spoiler: show

On topic:
Is that Maury's Car or Ifuzz dude's car? Either way, I'm pretty certain that you aren't allowed to drive a Lincoln town car until you reach 65 years of age. It's an obscure rule of driving that not many motorist know of, which becomes relevant when you start to think of the wizdom (seewhatididthere) that was put into the code of the bots in question. Old people get nice cars because the only other thing they would use their money on is leaving it to their children. which isn't nearly as fun as owning a Lincoln.

**umad?** · 2010-03-28 04:28

Originally Posted by shepardG

Spoiler is for panda and the rest of IIzerg.

Spoiler: show

On topic:
Is that Maury's Car or Ifuzz dude's car? Either way, I'm pretty certain that you aren't allowed to drive a Lincoln town car until you reach 65 years of age. It's an obscure rule of driving that not many motorist know of, which becomes relevant when you start to think of the wizdom (seewhatididthere) that was put into the code of the bots in question. Old people get nice cars because the only other thing they would use their money on is leaving it to their children. which isn't nearly as fun as owning a Lincoln.

Maury=Ifuzz

**iifuzz** · 2010-03-28 06:47

Originally Posted by shepardG

Spoiler is for panda and the rest of IIzerg.

Spoiler: show

On topic:
Is that Maury's Car or Ifuzz dude's car? Either way, I'm pretty certain that you aren't allowed to drive a Lincoln town car until you reach 65 years of age. It's an obscure rule of driving that not many motorist know of, which becomes relevant when you start to think of the wizdom (seewhatididthere) that was put into the code of the bots in question. Old people get nice cars because the only other thing they would use their money on is leaving it to their children. which isn't nearly as fun as owning a Lincoln.

Its not a town car!
its a sexy MKS.

http://siriusbuzz.com/wp-content/upl...incoln-mks.jpg

**Ancile** · 2010-03-28 06:51

Originally Posted by iifuzz

Its not a town car!
its a sexy MKS.

http://siriusbuzz.com/wp-content/upl...incoln-mks.jpg

needs some 22's!

**Colenzo** · 2010-03-28 06:53

Originally Posted by iifuzz

It pays pretty Good

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...3-27161139.jpg

fuck the onboard GPS, I wanna POS through traffic

**byte** · 2010-03-28 07:46

People still camp kings?

**Takedown3** · 2010-03-28 08:05

Originally Posted by iifuzz

Its not a town car!
its a sexy MKS.

http://siriusbuzz.com/wp-content/upl...incoln-mks.jpg

starships dont need keys!

**drwaffles** · 2010-03-28 08:07

Originally Posted by Aikar

my comment was more towards vs claiming w/o a bot vs claiming with a bot outside of a large scale group of bot users.

ie, even if you do bot (and one the only few in your LS to do it), a better computer would help you more.

But even in large scale botting of entire LS, still need better computers.

The bots cant react until they receive notification the nm has popped, and when your lagging, that 'notification' is lagged.

App and Wizbot have a clearpc function for a reason. In fact I used to use App's clearpc in order to cap FPS in places like Dynamis, and certainly whilst fighting kings. Too bad Wizbit is a total mong and can't manage to remove player models whilst still allowing them to be targeted. Similarly, "IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO LOCK Z ELEVATION GUIS".

**Aikar** · 2010-03-28 08:59

Originally Posted by drwaffles

App and Wizbot have a clearpc function for a reason. In fact I used to use App's clearpc in order to cap FPS in places like Dynamis, and certainly whilst fighting kings. Too bad Wizbit is a total mong and can't manage to remove player models whilst still allowing them to be targeted. Similarly, "IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO LOCK Z ELEVATION GUIS".

Your PC is still parsing data packets related to those NPC's, so yes the ability to remove PC's helps a mega fuckton, better pc still adds a little more advantage as the packets are decrypted and parsed quicker

**Afrohatch** · 2010-03-28 11:24

I love the license plate lol

**Trill** · 2010-03-28 13:37

Originally Posted by SathFenrir

You would not believe how many times I argued against a shell paying for NASA only to have very few members use it correctly / reliably on any given mob. Idiots think just because a name is attached to a bot it automatically makes it A+++, the irony being that the cheaper app bot (FFXI APP) with JA claim and lowest allowable spam settings was infinitely better and more reliable claiming tool than linked camping with only a few people casting on the mob and casting once, maybe twice, before the mob is claimed.

The thing is though: people are fucking stupid. They can read what you say Aikar, they can read what I say, they can read what Maury and Josh say, and at the end of the day they'll still pay xxx thousand dollars to have the bot for their shell that 8 people use max at primetime, all the while letting confirmation bias skew their opinion of their 10% claim rate as being attributed to the super bot +1.

FFXI-APP was, and always will be (barring private bots that I've not used,) the best solo or low number claiming tool available. Using a bot with a JA will still always be undeniably better than using a bot with magic. Wizbutt will still always be a complete and utter fucking moron. Certain things in FFXI are static, these are just a few of them.

The most important one? Shitty LS's will continue to make good coders rich while attempting to overcompensating for the fact that they made their shell 99% filler members and can't get shit done here, there, or anywhere.

Need to learn me some code.

I shed a couple tears when APP went down..i'll be the first one to admit i was an addict of botting with that program lol
"Hello my name is trill, and I am addicted to botting"

APP was the best thing FFXI has ever seen. And on the same note NASA was great. no matter how people look at it or what excuse they make NASA pretty much shut down any server it was on as far as hnm camping. No bot will claim 100% but i know first hand NASA was at least in the 90%+.

The way i see it is if you dont bot you have to be a fucking dumbass. People think the botters are the people with no life, but they have it sadly mistaken. People that play this game with no bot are the people with no life. Seriously, I made over 100mil with APP and didnt even look at my computer. On the same note. People wanting hnm gear and not botting, i comment them cause my ass woulda been quit. Camping fafhogg to get what 2 a month and then get m.body. Yeah thats coolness >.> That is def the way one should play this game.

Dont care what anybody say Maury deserves props for that fucking program cause it pretty much made this game..well a game,and not some online job where it took 2 years to get one piece of gear and 5 years to get fishing level 100

Oh and btw to all people who hate bots I dare some of you to count up the hours you have camped nid/aspi/KB just to see a purple mob(no claim), count the hours and say you have a minimal wage job in your respective state/country. Calculate the hours u spent wasting your fucking time watching a botting linkshell outclaim you and I promise u the money you COULD have made had you worked for those amount of hours equals far more then if you would have bought a bot in the first place.

/end ramble

**drwaffles** · 2010-03-28 14:33

No bot will claim 100% but i know first hand NASA was at least in the 90%+.

How can you claim to be such a botting fanatic and then make stupid statements like this? Why does no one seem to understand that NASA's (or any bot for that matter) claim rate is directly proportional to both the effectiveness with which you use it (i.e. how many people you have linked to it) and the ineptitude of your competition?

A year or so ago my shell camped against a typical idiot NASA shell and still managed to claim well just using the linked camping feature of App. Do you know why shells like Exodus on Remora have an 80%+ claim rate with their packet bots? Because they have shitloads of members and mules at each camp, and their competition is a bunch of clueless no-hopers.

It's no wonder the average player is so suspicious of botters when it seems most botters themselves don't even understand how bots work...

**vagus** · 2010-03-28 14:37

Originally Posted by drwaffles

How can you claim to be such a script kiddy fanatic and then make stupid statements like this?

Fixed. Seems more fitting.

**Despain** · 2010-03-28 14:39

People out there still believe bots are invincible.

**Omnipotent** · 2010-03-28 14:54

Fucking lol.

**thetruepandagod** · 2010-03-28 15:41

Originally Posted by Trill

No bot will claim 100% but i know first hand NASA was at least in the 90%+.

Whats the difference between 20 people on nasa and 20 people on linked camping with app?

nothing.

**antihero** · 2010-03-28 16:32

one sets you back $400 and one sets you back $4000?

**Kipling** · 2010-03-28 18:16

One was called NASA. Sounds tougher.

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