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  1. #81
    Hydra
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    ask for a senior or lead GM? They might* be able to help you since they are higher up on the food chain =\ good luck

  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julian View Post
    Let's prove it: (I hated hated hated discrete math, so this probably isn't "technically 100% correct", but still)

    P=He has the title
    Q=He has the item

    The game holds that when you obtain the title, you also obtain the item. Therefore, we can establish that P=>Q.

    We can also say that Q=>P, because if you have the item, you also have the title. Therefore, if P is true, Q must also be true, or P=Q.

    Now, a simple investigation will show that the item is not in his inventory, and that he indeed has the title.

    To say that he never owned the item would be a clear contradiction. Therefore, based on how this game works (you can't trade rare/ex items) the only possibility is that the item was dropped.

    Q.E.D.
    *counters with the principle of explosion, and uses it to derive your mothers phone number*

  3. #83
    futan
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    Have you asked them to reset the quest? I'm pretty sure they're able to do that.

  4. #84
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    sent in an email also, GL

  5. #85
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    Bugged them too, best of luck

  6. #86
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    sent email , good luck

  7. #87
    Smells like Onions
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    Email sent as well. Best of luck to you.

  8. #88
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    This really does suck to hear, and i realise SE have a policy that they have to stick to on issues such as this, but there is no possible way that you can exploit this and as you said in the OP you eve had the GM confim the title for you, they should bend the rules even if its just this one time.

    Shitty customer support is shitty.

  9. #89
    Nidhogg
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    Email sent. I never thought SE could be THIS retarded, but Jesus fuck.

    @Shadowhusky: I hope your mother dies, then you QQ about it and we all tell you to stop being a baby back bitch and deal with it. Asshole.

  10. #90
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    E-mail sent. Seems like an easy enough fix, and I don't see a way to take advantage of the situation for illicit means. Best of luck.

  11. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Despain View Post
    Email sent. I never thought SE could be THIS retarded, but Jesus fuck.

    @Shadowhusky: I hope your mother dies, then you QQ about it and we all tell you to stop being a baby back bitch and deal with it. Asshole.
    Yes, I would compare someone's mother dying to having your black belt tossed.

  12. #92
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    1. Quest black belt IRL.
    2. Demonstrate black belt to ex.

    /not sure if I'm joking...
    /sent email.

  13. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uryuu View Post
    Yes, I would compare someone's mother dying to having your black belt tossed.
    Why not? They're both equally valuable, except Black Belt doesn't cook for you.

    To keep this on topic, is there even a small chance that these emails will work?

  14. #94
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveMc View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hirokei Kiaza View Post
    Shit sucks because as someone else already stated, I can see an upcoming Red Belt quest with the level cap increase which would require the BB. Good luck.
    Unless they up the haste cap I doubt they will add another belt, but it would be cool if they add NIN and SAM to it at later levels, but that's just wishful thinking.
    Actually, if they added a new quest later that required trading the Black Belt, that might actually increase the chances of them making it re-obtainable.

    And email sent, for what it's worth.

  15. #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by Despain View Post
    Why not? They're both equally valuable, except Black Belt doesn't cook for you.

    To keep this on topic, is there even a small chance that these emails will work?
    1) I am going to assume you are trolling for the sake of trolling.

    2) No.

  16. #96
    XI was, and will always be, better.
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    email hath been sent, be persistent and drive se crazy

    gl

  17. #97
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  18. #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by Despain View Post
    To keep this on topic, is there even a small chance that these emails will work?
    I think it's possible. Especially if it's given enough community exposure and support. Just make sure to write something detailed but short, and intelligible. Like: "I'd like to see rare quested items such as the Black Belt become reobtainable in the case of an accident" Not: "LOL se U r so gay. U suck for not doing anything write LOL".

    Something huge like remaking the entire game with better graphics and UI is unrealistic. Something small like trading a Brown Belt to the Neptune Spire door to give a new Black Belt sounds feasible. Or reobtaining Evoker's Ring or ToA ring, etc.

    Square has responded in the past. After a lot of pressure they finally made Ulli into a spawn NM. Players wanted HNM that spawned in a wide variety of areas, and they got it (some people hate this, I know, notwithstanding). Players suggested adding a crate with cells to the Salvage entrance. After posting here about the lack of expansion titles in auto-translate they became implemented. They've changed Dynamis drop rates, and lowered the Remnant Permit cost. Reobtaining rare quest items seems like a good suggestion to me.

  19. #99
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    Why don't we just come up with a large list of ra/ex items that are not re-obtainable and use it to e-mail SE with?

    I know SMNs used to bitch about Evoker's Ring in the past, and SE (a couple years later >.>) made the quest repeatable.

  20. #100
    Nidhogg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uryuu View Post
    1) I am going to assume you are trolling for the sake of trolling.

    2) No.
    I'm not trolling, you stupid fuck, it's called a joke.

    Anyway, if this gets enough attention, SE has to do something or they'll probably lose even more support from their already diminishing player base.

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