Old League of Legends Thread

**Serif** · 2011-05-09 00:32

So just startled jungling with Olaf, not much you can do about a full team gank on you at blue? Besides have your whole team guard you?

**Qeomash** · 2011-05-09 00:32

Patch Preview is up!

My only thing from it: WOO! Silence is on Mercury Treads now! And it's not the only CC reduction item anymore!

**Arvin** · 2011-05-09 01:10

Originally Posted by Serif

So just startled jungling with Olaf, not much you can do about a full team gank on you at blue? Besides have your whole team guard you?

different route if you're starting at blue?

**Rivero** · 2011-05-09 08:08

Olaf can start at any spot in the jungle. If you are somehow prevented from doing blue just start at the two big golems and go backwards avoiding the red.

**Meian** · 2011-05-09 08:55

Originally Posted by Qeomash

Patch Preview is up!

My only thing from it: WOO! Silence is on Mercury Treads now! And it's not the only CC reduction item anymore!

I like the GP buffs but the lack of any word on Fiddlesticks or Kayle is saddening, just going to hope on the patch notes.

**Serif** · 2011-05-09 09:44

So instead of doing Blue first I should do something like this?

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/263/srift.jpg

**Tyrath** · 2011-05-09 09:45

Originally Posted by Meian

I like the GP buffs but the lack of any word on Fiddlesticks or Kayle is saddening, just going to hope on the patch notes.

There was a riot staffer post on the forum saying the Kayle changes were coming the patch after this one.

**Rivero** · 2011-05-09 09:56

Originally Posted by Serif

So instead of doing Blue first I should do something like this?

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/263/srift.jpg

Exactly.

Wit's End nerf makes me sad. The item is going to be useless now, what kind of a trade-off is mana-burn for a null-magic mantle? So stupid.

**Meian** · 2011-05-09 11:21

Originally Posted by Tyrath

There was a riot staffer post on the forum saying the Kayle changes were coming the patch after this one.

Ah kk, I remember seeing he/she were mentioning ideas for Kayle but made no word when those would come (that I saw anyway). The idea of nerfing her passive but buffing her abilities I am not sure if I like... course that doesn't include her ult

**Tyrath** · 2011-05-09 11:48

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board...52#post8572452

Thats the one I saw.

tol · 2011-05-09 13:37

oh goodie, moar battleborn kayle skin use inc. for sure looking forward to a kayle tweak but mannnn nerfing jarvan? ;(

**Arvin** · 2011-05-09 13:49

yeah, jarvan nerf is kinda uncalled for. he's about equal with other bruiser champions when it comes to survivability and damage output.

**Falaras** · 2011-05-09 15:57

Originally Posted by Qeomash

Patch Preview is up!

My only thing from it: WOO! Silence is on Mercury Treads now! And it's not the only CC reduction item anymore!

I can definitely see the AP item with Tenacity being a new must on all AP carries. Not sure how this is going to work for ranged carries though, probably will still be going merc treads.

**Minardi** · 2011-05-09 16:07

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board...d.php?t=729534

Some additional questions answered about the Patch Preview notes, if people are curious about some of the more fiddly details... Or if you want to ask a question yourself.

**Meian** · 2011-05-09 17:06

Originally Posted by Tyrath

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board...52#post8572452

Thats the one I saw.

The other one I saw was a long Kayle thread that the same person posted in but this one has more current info, thanks!

Originally Posted by Minardi

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board...d.php?t=729534

Some additional questions answered about the Patch Preview notes, if people are curious about some of the more fiddly details... Or if you want to ask a question yourself.

I read that as "fiddle details" :\ Someone asked about Fiddlesticks on the first page but nadda yet from Phreak
Lee Sin buffs are always welcomed at least XD

**Aero** · 2011-05-09 17:14

I dont get the shen nerf at all. Im almost certain it nerfs jungle shen(which is how I loved to play him :\); but their answer is so odd to me.

Here is my question.... I read your response Phreak about Shen and its really weird to me that you find his 'damage' to be a problem. Can you tell me what drew you/Riot to this conclusion?? Because i always thought his team saving, aoe taunting, side pushing / global ult was what made him strong.. And doesn't this hurt his jungle??

Personal opinion of Phreak: Shen is a support/tank and not a DPS champion. We've been nerfing his shields and taunts a little bit, but if we bring them any lower, he stops being a tank or support champion. If Shen did zero damage on all his abilities, he would be underpowered. Right now, he's overpowered. There's some value of damage we can give Shen where he's balanced. However, I think we can also give players the option to be "heroic" with Shen and have the ability to deal damage if they itemize for it. As Shen is built on Live right now, he'll deal less damage, but has the potential to deal more.

By this description they want you to stack HP on shen; which will involve a warmog. Warmogs is going to take shen a long time to farm because he has 0 AoE abilities and you dont build him AD/AS. Lets face it without sunfire cape it takes shen A LONG time to clear a minion wave. They also want to make a champ which is a tank, a melee carry? Then why would you pick shen at all to fill that role? Jarvan/Xin/Irela does that role so much better.

**Anomander** · 2011-05-09 17:37

Originally Posted by Serif

So just startled jungling with Olaf, not much you can do about a full team gank on you at blue? Besides have your whole team guard you?

This happens a lot. I have had many games where we had a level one team fight. Be prepared for this, and you should always have guards for the jungle. Alternatively, you can group as a team and invade their jungle to start. Snatching up their blue can seriously slow down the opponents jungle while giving one of your laners a significant boost. Also, if you move completely as a team against the opponent, you will often find them just slightly spread out, and can usually pick up an easy first blood. Bonus if its on the jungler, because not only do you get to steal their blue, they start off a level behind everyone, and usually are 2-3 levels behind by the time people are hitting 6.

**Minardi** · 2011-05-09 18:40

Haha, Sorry Mei! Here's a comic to make it funnier(?): http://soraka.blogspot.com/ There's a fiddle comic in there!

**Meian** · 2011-05-09 19:29

Haha yea I use to read these but he stopped updating for a while in March. Didn't know he finally did more and a Fiddle one XD

**Minardi** · 2011-05-09 20:15

Haha, aaaye. I loved the Fiddles one.

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