Old League of Legends Thread

[Dantrag]

Mord isn't OP at all. Just take him out 2-3 times and he's done for the game. I was squishing him as Nasus mid game a few games ago. But then again, he had teleport and ignite...

GP could use a little bit of a number crunch.

Been playing Nidalee on my smurf account. Dat spear is hella fun. I took teemo from 100% hp to 1% HP with 2 spears. Wasn't in range for the kill but was funny none the less.

[Serif]

The only thing Nid's Spear is good for is poke. In a team fight her spear shouldn't be doing shit seeing how your team should be going after her anyway. If you are allowing a Nid to sit in the back and spear throw your team is pretty stupid. You should be able to dodge her spear after level 1 boots if you pay attention, I say this but I still get caught with stupid snares and skill shots all the time.

[Dantrag]

From the throwers perspective it's all about predicting and being lucky. Are they going to cast? Are they going to move? Will they auto attack? Which way are they going to try and juke? Are they between objects? They're not hard to land but do require a bit of luck from time to time. Last night on my smurf I was playing poppy and the enemy had a Nidalee who was stronger than ours by far. In team fights I would just W to the back and ult Nidalee and destroy her before my ult wore down. Without the heals we were able to take out the rest of the team(I would usually die because 2 people would peal off and try to protect Nid, which was always fruitless because I ran faster and it took me 1 E and 2 Q's to kill her.

[Serif]

I doubt I am wrong but Nid is just going to be worthless as shit now. The only thing that is good about her is the poke. Her cure will probably be readjusted unless they are satisfied with the change. Top lane is starting to become the tanky dps lane nowadays.

[Hiryo]

I doubt I am wrong but Nid is just going to be worthless as shit now. The only thing that is good about her is the poke. Her cure will probably be readjusted unless they are satisfied with the change. Top lane is starting to become the tanky dps lane nowadays.

Definently depends on the player imo. Nid is one of my best champs and I have never been one to just hang back and spam heal and javelin. I know its just lolsoloQ and i'm only level 24, but my more aggro build has yet to fail me. Even games where I play against (most likely new players) that build deathcap, magic penetration shoes, etc on their Nidalees always lose in the mirror match against me. In my most recent matches I could scare off any enemy champ one v one except for a fully grown Cho'Gath which cant kill me anyway. Cougar form buffs will make champs like him and Garen easier to deter(but yes, I can't solo down either one in a respectable amount of time).

I am hoping that the nerf will help differentiate worthless Nid players from good ones. I wish the servers were up to show off some lolsoloQ stats, but I'm pretty sure my win streak with Nid is still going. Almost always more creep kills than anyone, usually the best Kill/Death/Assist ratio out of everyone.

Idk how I'm going to deal with an extra second on Pounce though. I've never built cdr on her and don have much to choose from.
Deathfire for an additional nuke and 15% cdr,
Frozen Heart for 99 Armor and 20%
Evil Tome for +20 AP more than the other items @20% cdr
Nasir's Tooth for aspd that does nearly nothing in Cougar form but 25% cdr

[Rivero]

You could already tell who's a shitty Nid and who's a good one. IMO the scaling was sort of required but they could have countered that by buffing her base heal to help her out in the early game. She needs a stronger early game heal and the dodge back.

[izembo]

build ideas for talon? frozen mallet seems like a given, but otherwise?

[D44kpunk]

probably just your typical top lane tanky DPS items sadly

[izembo]

such as? ive mostly played ap casters

[Dantrag]

probably just your typical top lane tanky DPS items sadly

Doesn't seem tanky dps at all, more like straight dps. I'd build him closer to poppy than to irelia or jarven.

[BlackMoomba]

Atmog's if you wanna instantly go tanky dps.

[Zanz L. Barre The 3rd]

Are there any melee that can prevail in team fights that don't go tanky dps? I'm having a hard time thinking of any. Izembo, if you want to try building him tanky dps (which seems like the most "logical" route), try this:

Start: Regrowth Pendant + Potion > 1st trip back: Philosopher's Stone > Heart of Gold > Merc. Treads or Ninja Tabi (based on team comp) > Mid Game: Trinity Force (substitutes Frozen Mallet) > Randuin's Omen or Force of Nature (based off of team comp) > Late Game: Warmog's > Atma's > Bloodthirster or FoN/Randuin's (whichever you didn't finish earlier)

Glass Cannon (might be possible depending on potency of stealth and passive):

Start: Boots + 3 Potions or Doran's Blade (depending on early game strength) > 1st trip back: Berserker's Greaves + B.F. Sword > Mid Game: Infinity Edge + Phantom Dancer > Late Game: Last Whisper > Frozen Mallet > Banshee's Veil

The Glass cannon build could possibly work with the tankiness of Frozen Mallet and Banshee's Veil, but I'm still skeptical. I'm no LoL expert, just throwing out ideas for those interested.

[izembo]

with his passive id just assume youd want the frozen mallet earlier

[Rivero]

Gangplank/Jax/Panth comes to mind. Other than that, not really. Maybe Alistar?

[izembo]

ive played jax a good bit too

[Djghost454]

Trynd doesn't build tanky dps, if you do as him, your doing it wrong. But, he's in and out of a fight, cant linger too long.

[D44kpunk]

Gangplank/Jax/Panth comes to mind. Other than that, not really. Maybe Alistar?

gp is better if tanky, nearly everyone gets atmas/warmogs on him lately, jax is naturally tanky and panth has his passive to add a lot of survivability, non tanky melee AD just doesn't work anymore thus why champions like yi, shaco, etc have no real place in todays meta unless you build them tanky

[The_OG_Nelta]

Best Tanky DPS character's are probably Jax or Xin.

[Tyrath]

Uh, I don't think I want Talon built tanky dps. I'm gonna try other things lol

[Yabby]

If you guys want to help a bad player get better add me n00blet2000 (Made the name as a smurf account, then got hooked on the runes i had and liked it better than my main lol)