Old League of Legends Thread

**Loan** · 2011-09-06 09:57

I do hope they boost Shen.. He's my only tank option, and boy is he annoying to play as early/mid and even early late game.. Get him past the 45 min mark, and he's somewhat useful.. But getting there before your team verbally assaults you and surrenders is almost impossible.. Worst part other than doing zero damage, is once you taunt, you better not do anything else while waiting for CD on it, or else you won't have the energy to do it again.. I'm really not sure what they can do to improve him, unless they improve his jungling ability.. Maybe then he can get to 6 quicker and get gold faster.. Split laning seems to be what he's designed to do, with his global ult allowing him to jump into team fights, but too bad he can't slaughter minions with any speed..

Question, why is Fiddlesticks a "tier 1 jungler"? Guy takes so long to clear a jungle and get to level 6.. Maybe I'm playing it wrong, but my Akali can get to 6 in under 7 minutes and she's supposedly not a good jungler.. If time isn't the factor, is it his ganking ability pre-6 that I'm suppose to utilize? Unfortunately, I bought Fiddle yesterday, only to see he was on the free list this week, so now I gotta deal with everyone playing him too..

**Aero** · 2011-09-06 11:42

Originally Posted by Loan

If time isn't the factor, is it his ganking ability pre-6 that I'm suppose to utilize?

Bingo. In order for a jungler to be a good pick they have to excel in 3 places.

1. Ganks.
Fiddle with fear silence and a large damage nuke pre-6 is a force to fear. And he only gets stronger LV6+.

2. Jungle clear time.
Dont start and depend on blue buff and youll notice a large speed increase on your way to 6. Start at double golems and work your way toward blue buff skipping red. This is not only a safer route, but you will be able to recover from counter jungling much easier and not have your early game ruined.

3. Dragon and baron control.
Fiddle can solo dragon at level 5 with blue buff. Fiddle can duo baron at level 13 with blue buff and an off tank(Think top lane). Very few people can do this. On a side note Jax with gunblade and jungle fiddle can kill baron hilariously fast at low levels.

Also when is season one ending. I thought it was supposed to be at the end of August.

**Denchi** · 2011-09-06 11:50

Mejai's Soulstealer is becoming a part of my tool belt lately. It's hard to stack enough AP in the later levels (10-15) and I usually always am getting 20+ assists with a few kills sprinkled in. I find I'm pretty dominant with it.

I'm level 25 now, though, and the competition is getting pretty tough, and a lot of it seems to come down to group comp. If we have a lot of true melee in a lane and they have solid ranged it's pretty stupid. Also bad players are much costlier now it seems, as the other teams usually know what they're doing and you pay for it.

Morgana is still awesome, but I'm probably only winning 75% of games with her now, and the losses are demoralizing

**Bweigelt** · 2011-09-06 12:21

Oh great Ezreal is free this week. Now I'm going to have deal with a bunch of randoms picking him and having no idea what they are doing and I won't get to play him for a week.

**Meian** · 2011-09-06 16:11

Originally Posted by Leb

But I don't, I haven't played with BG in LoL in forever, partially due to the fact that I hardly play LoL ever anymore.

I think I may have you confused with someone else then lol

Originally Posted by Aero

Also when is season one ending. I thought it was supposed to be at the end of August.

At next patch apprently

**Fallyn** · 2011-09-07 01:50

which apparently isn't happening until next week at the earliest now.

**Rivero** · 2011-09-07 05:03

I bet it'll come out in December or something stupid like that.

**alexisamonster** · 2011-09-07 12:54

Originally Posted by Denchi

Mejai's Soulstealer is becoming a part of my tool belt lately. It's hard to stack enough AP in the later levels (10-15) and I usually always am getting 20+ assists with a few kills sprinkled in. I find I'm pretty dominant with it.

I'm level 25 now, though, and the competition is getting pretty tough, and a lot of it seems to come down to group comp. If we have a lot of true melee in a lane and they have solid ranged it's pretty stupid. Also bad players are much costlier now it seems, as the other teams usually know what they're doing and you pay for it.

Morgana is still awesome, but I'm probably only winning 75% of games with her now, and the losses are demoralizing

once you hit 30 stop using soulstealer , snowball items become pretty useless unless your a leblanc or something that can wrack up a lot of kills early. Even then it makes you play very defensively, which can cause your team to lose.

**Denchi** · 2011-09-07 13:47

Yeah funny enough after I posted that I stopped using it haha.

I was getting so mad last night......during pugs if no one picks a tank we just lose. No one groups the fuck up, everyone runs off thinking their gonna win the game for us, then they get ganked. Even when we DO group up, as soon as any enemy fires a shot everyone just scatters. The Annie in our group went like 3-2-6, and she did the best on our team.....because she just ran away all the time. As soon as we engage, we would all die, then Annie would be off in lala land saying "Well I didn't wanna die too!" God damn retards.

**Thunder** · 2011-09-07 13:55

That hurts the most in pugs. When you engage you expect anyone and everyone around to engage as well.

The worst is when a teammate wont make it away from the other team chasing and everyone has to make the tough call whether to run away still or engage in the teamfight. If you all run, they just picked up a kill and 4 assists, and now are pushing @5 when you're @4, or worse - 3. But it SUCKS when half of the team engages because they want to use the life of your doomed teammate to its fullest.. and then the rest of the team either flat out runs(this is kind of dumb, if the team gets 3 kills and <13 assists in an instant during a 5man push you probably just lost) or engages late, which is what usually happens.

**Aero** · 2011-09-07 21:36

Assists per kill means nothing. The way assists work is half the gold the player was worth is put into an assist pool; and all the people who got an assist takes equal share of that pool.

A player worth 300 gold has a 150 pool.
1 player assist gets 150
2 player assist gets 75 each
3 player assist gets 50 each
etc.

**The_OG_Nelta** · 2011-09-07 21:38

Tanks are overrated.

**LinktheDeme** · 2011-09-07 22:07

Originally Posted by alexisamonster

once you hit 30 stop using soulstealer , snowball items become pretty useless unless your a leblanc or something that can wrack up a lot of kills early. Even then it makes you play very defensively, which can cause your team to lose.

you don't have to rack up kills you only have to rack up assists racking up kills makes it better though. And annie for example is one of those heros that is great at racking up early kills.

**Hiryo** · 2011-09-07 22:21

I'm not level 30, but looking at those high Elo videos, i always thought that high rank games don't go into the 20+ kill range. I would imagine that even if you got 5 kills and 10 assists, the game would already be over as no level 30 team dies THAT much.

Of course I could be wrong.

**The_OG_Nelta** · 2011-09-07 22:26

Originally Posted by Hiryo

I'm not level 30, but looking at those high Elo videos, i always thought that high rank games don't go into the 20+ kill range. I would imagine that even if you got 5 kills and 10 assists, the game would already be over as no level 30 team dies THAT much.

Of course I could be wrong.

Silly assumption. A high ELO game can go any way. Hell you could be down like 20 kills and still win. It's all about teamwork.

**Norellicus** · 2011-09-08 06:48

So I heard this was p. cool, up to level 5 now. Enjoying blowing stuff up with Ryze.

aduidarnenye · 2011-09-08 15:29

Originally Posted by Hiryo

I'm not level 30, but looking at those high Elo videos, i always thought that high rank games don't go into the 20+ kill range. I would imagine that even if you got 5 kills and 10 assists, the game would already be over as no level 30 team dies THAT much.

Of course I could be wrong.

Most tend to not get very high kill ranges. You often see 50+ kills a side in low level games but almost never in the higher ones. 30ish seems to be average.

In tournament games you sometimes see under 10 kills on each side but usually it's between 15 and 20.

**Qeomash** · 2011-09-08 19:59

Played a normal game last night with a final score of 77 to 66. The enemy side was all squishy burst champions, while we had a tank. Most all teamfights were near double aces, with one or two people limping away with no health.

Was a lot of fun.

**Deftscythe** · 2011-09-08 21:36

I had a game today as Annie like that. Personal score was 20/7/19, team scores were like 88-48 at the end. Shit was ridiculous. We dominated early but it took a long time to finish because my team were derps at pushing.

**Lebzile** · 2011-09-10 06:34

EVERYDAY I'M CARRYIN'. Fucking leavers.

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