Old League of Legends Thread

Tonko · 2011-09-15 20:29

Still impressive.
Just had this game. My team tried to surrender 6 times throughout the game.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6183/...3827733c_b.jpg
Once steam fights started, I survived every one of them, and usually one other person on my team limped away. They never focused me (as you shouldn't) was a very fun game.

**Meian** · 2011-09-15 21:49

That Shen had a decent kill/assist, now am curious further about the AP style...

**Arvin** · 2011-09-15 23:20

look up my last few games (arvlol)

i won us the game with our last team fight. we had our tankwick go in and initiate, they all jumped on him and i shielded him for 750+1230 from my ult. we aced with no deaths. i was in the top solo lane vs jarvan and completely out farmed and harassed him. sustain is insane, harassment is amazing with vorpal blade. i dont level taunt until 4, and then i just max vb and feint. i only use taunt as its utility, not an initiate.

the one weakness of ap shen, is if you get focused youre worthless.. but in that sense you SHOULD be able to tank with feint and max CDR, feinting every 2 or so seconds while you kite and vorpal blade is enough for your team to clean house. cc locking is probably the best bet.

**Deftscythe** · 2011-09-16 02:33

While I'm sure that works, it isn't what I got Shen for.

**Meian** · 2011-09-16 11:53

Originally Posted by Deftscythe

While I'm sure that works, it isn't what I got Shen for.

And they didn't intend for Irelia to be the style she is now, hence the desire to nerf her.

More buffs to Shen are still welcomed. Something to play with until they figure out something with him.

**Dantrag** · 2011-09-16 12:01

Make his shields based off armor/magic res/hp based would make him more tank ish, give him a better taunt or something like that. How did they intend Irelia to be?

**Meian** · 2011-09-16 12:57

Originally Posted by Dantrag

Make his shields based off armor/magic res/hp based would make him more tank ish, give him a better taunt or something like that. How did they intend Irelia to be?

Earlier I made a suggestion on the forums regarding Feint sort of acting like how Utsuemi does in FFXI (specifically toward melee attacks) and if the "shadows" are down then they'd do bonus damage to the target (or small aoe boom). Lots of ideas of how to make Feint seem more viable when not going an AP route.

I don't recall the exact post anymore regarding Irelia but it may have been this one when Guinsoo responded to this guy here:

Guy:

no offense but you are a moron.. really wtf is the point of a carry, TO CARRY. WTF is the point of support, to SUPPORT. my god were you get your ideas from is beyond me

Guinsoo
[quite]guinsoo: Irelia isn't supposed to be a carry... right now I would sort of describe her as a tank carry assassin.[/quote]

I think he doesn't like how she can carry and be assassiny and tanky (or just not be a carry at all) which is the current state of her.

**Dantrag** · 2011-09-16 13:06

Then they need to up her damage and take away some survivability. Assassins are supposed to have extremely high burst. But right now she is more of a tanky dps.

Also, I have 0 faith in guinsoo, such a fuck-wit tool.

**Zanz L. Barre The 3rd** · 2011-09-16 13:57

Originally Posted by Dantrag

Then they need to up her damage and take away some survivability. Assassins are supposed to have extremely high burst. But right now she is more of a tanky dps.

Also, I have 0 faith in guinsoo, such a fuck-wit tool.

Giving her more burst won't change the way people build her. If you're melee, you're going to have to be tanky dps or risk being instantly raped every team fight. There only like, 5-6 melee champs you can build like glass cannons and even then that's questionable.

**Dantrag** · 2011-09-16 14:05

Originally Posted by Zanz L. Barre The 3rd

Giving her more burst won't change the way people build her. If you're melee, you're going to have to be tanky dps or risk being instantly raped every team fight. There only like, 5-6 melee champs you can build like glass cannons and even then that's questionable.

Are we talking about AD melee champions?

**Rivero** · 2011-09-16 14:06

Originally Posted by Arvin

look up my last few games (arvlol)

i won us the game with our last team fight. we had our tankwick go in and initiate, they all jumped on him and i shielded him for 750+1230 from my ult. we aced with no deaths. i was in the top solo lane vs jarvan and completely out farmed and harassed him. sustain is insane, harassment is amazing with vorpal blade. i dont level taunt until 4, and then i just max vb and feint. i only use taunt as its utility, not an initiate.

the one weakness of ap shen, is if you get focused youre worthless.. but in that sense you SHOULD be able to tank with feint and max CDR, feinting every 2 or so seconds while you kite and vorpal blade is enough for your team to clean house. cc locking is probably the best bet.

Yeah. Shen's biggest issue is being focused. I try to go Sunfire/Rylais as core, but usually from there I just have to start getting tanky items. There's not a lot of room for HP/AP items. Abyssal Scepter is pretty good if you have an AP heavy team but I can't really see getting Rabas/Void Staff as serious purchases, granted it's not a "serious" build, it still has some limitations.

**Arvin** · 2011-09-16 15:01

i more or less get the scepter for the MR and AP, and then the added utility is nice

**Rivero** · 2011-09-16 15:37

Have you thought about Lich Bane? Extra movespeed is kind of nice and 300 damage isn't too shabby either (Rylais/Scepter/Runes)

**Arvin** · 2011-09-16 16:07

ill try it out after im done with work :3

**Loan** · 2011-09-16 18:00

I tried to build an fairly early Rylais with Shen yesterday, and spent 30 mins trying to defend my teammates trolling me.. And we were winning at the time.. They were more focused on my build than pushing lanes, and we lost..

**Rivero** · 2011-09-16 18:24

Rylai's is so core for Shen. It gives you slows which help tremendously for chasing/protecting allies. The AP buff only brought it from great to core IMO. I love grabbing Rylai's on certain tanks like Amumu/Malphite/Shen. Being able to slow or slow harder just makes you that more useful as a tank.

**LinktheDeme** · 2011-09-17 01:43

Rate my Riven build

Doran's Blade > Ninja Tabi > Wriggles > Brutalizer > Trinity Force > (The Thing Brutalizer Upgrades into >_>) > Hexdrinker > Thornmail if melee heavy otherwise Atma's

**Djghost454** · 2011-09-17 01:59

Her CD's are too quick for Triforce to be worthwhile IMO. As well as her base damage being purposely low so people wouldn't exploit triforce on her. She was designed for that not to be the best item.

Tonko · 2011-09-17 04:08

Originally Posted by LinktheDeme

Rate my Riven build

Doran's Blade > Ninja Tabi > Wriggles > Brutalizer > Trinity Force > (The Thing Brutalizer Upgrades into >_>) > Hexdrinker > Thornmail if melee heavy otherwise Atma's

Better to frozen mallet from the brutalizer imo >_> Great item for most any melee AD.

**Fallyn** · 2011-09-17 04:19

doing it wrong by playing Riven.

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