Old League of Legends Thread

[Aero]

Huh.. You understand that Yi gains a shit ton of armor and magic resist while he meditates. Alpha strike > meditate and usually when that's over, you can get one more alpha strike in if you're smart about it. The 1:1 ratio is amazing, and AP yi is just as viable as any other character.

Also, whenever he meditates, people are stupid and always target him.. leaving your team to finish the rest of them off.

One thing I will agree on is that Yi is a pub stomper(Albeit AD Yi shits on AP Yi in that respect); but one single stun or silence(What kind of teams do you play on that doesnt have CC) that interrupts Meditate will get you killed every time. He has one nuke on a 10 second CD(6 seconds with 40% CDR).

One other question I have for you is which lane do you go to?
Bottom lane? I could see pretty much any standard combo bottom beating a Yi/support.
Mid? You will lose to any decent AP mid simply because you will have to melee for last hits. If you alpha strike you will push the lane and with Surge/Ignite your only escape is your Ult(Which is on way too long of a CD). Not to mention pretty much every AP mid has one form of CC to get you out of meditate.
Top? I said this is probably viable so long as they dont have stun/silence. The only regular tops that dont have one would be Nasus and Trynd; which would still shit on AP yi once they get Wriggles.
Jungle? Exceptionally weak ganks, relatively slow clear time.

I dont know why you are trying to defend mediocrity. Like I said if you have fun playing it go for it. AP Yi can be viable but it would be subpar compared to pretty much any other AP in the game.

[Norellicus]

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[Dantrag]

Any good AP Yi will NEVER...NEVER target the player if they don't have to. It's about proper bounces. Especially while minions are still pushing forward. You can hit the champ and still be where you started.

[Tyrath]

Never really played Yi. Someone wanna explain to me how the Alpha Strike bounces work? :<

[Dantrag]

Hits 4 targets and puts you in place where the initial mob that you hit with it is. So if mobs are in a line like when they're coming to lane, you'll go to the first one you hit and then it'll bounce to the next 3 in the line. Probably easiest to just google it lol.

[Arvin]

Teamfight scenario: You don't initiate, you wait for the fight, go in and alpha with Highlander up. Run out if possible. If you get caught, meditate. Rinse and repeat. Most CC is used already.

Also, any caster shitting on him on mid? You serious dude? LOL. He shits on anyone at mid if they don't have a proper gank.

[Dantrag]

Meditate is about timing anyways. I can probably beat most mid AP w/ yi. Yi overall is one of the flat out best lane farmers in the game. Highlander is on what? A 70 second cool down at rank 1?

Edit: 75 seconds. That's frigin nothing.

[Aero]

Any good AP Yi will NEVER...NEVER target the player if they don't have to. It's about proper bounces. Especially while minions are still pushing forward. You can hit the champ and still be where you started.

So your plan to CS is to push the lane every single wave in order to harass properly. Any jungler worth his weight will be camping you. Yi also wont be able to one shot minions until he has a decent amount of AP(You cant count on a RNG to one shot 4 minions at any level).

Teamfight scenario: You don't initiate, you wait for the fight, go in and alpha with Highlander up. Run out if possible. If you get caught, meditate. Rinse and repeat. Most CC is used already.

Also, any caster shitting on him on mid? You serious dude? LOL. He shits on anyone at mid if they don't have a proper gank.

Team fight scenario: 2 nukes in 8 seconds 0 CC. Annie on the other hand uses 5 nukes and has 1-2 stuns, possibly AoE. Yi also has 0 poking abilities.

Lane scenario: Melee to CS or use alpha strike to CS. Having to pull away from creep wave to meditate or risk be stunned/silenced.


I still dont get why you're trying to defend mediocrity, every AP caster in the game does what AP Yi can do but better.

[Tyrath]

Maybe because while not every champion can be the best at their role in the game, sometimes people enjoy playing others that aren't top tier simply because they like the champion? I don't think every non ranked game has to be top tier champions only.

[Thunder]

Nobody's saying AP yi can't be enjoyed and nobody's saying every non ranked game has to be top tier champions only

Don't know what's with all of the sarcasm/anger when the point's been made that AP yi is no top tier mage. Look at how the "discussion" started: question about AP yi, why AP yi isn't seen a lot, AP yi can kill anyone from 50%, top tier champs kill from 90%!, you're a tryhard and alpha strike/meditate is good, this is why it isn't better than top teir mages.

He simply isn't one of thebest AP carries in the game and it's pretty obvious. But that doesn't mean you literally cannot have fun with it. I'd go as far as saying that trying to justify that anything so subjective is fun is pretty stupid in itself.

[Meian]

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[Tonko]

Had a game yesterday, trying out new summoner spells on jungle mumu since flash got nerfed, and playing without it is smarter than having to rely on it. Decided on Clarity, as Mumu is always a mana hog, and my build doesn't include any mana regen. My team immediately starts to deride my choice, and call me newfag and what not. I <grin> at them, and say that I know what I'm doing. They continue to laugh and heckle, I'm whateves about it. Mid was Xerath, so after my first blue I fed him blue every time, and I went without it. At 5 mins in I already had 2 assists from ganking bot, picked up another on mid, and then ulted top for another gank. I ended the game at 2/0/13 or some such (we won.) They all apologized and said it worked out. Funny how trying new things can work.

[Rivero]

You still need some sort of initiation/slow summoner on Amumu though.. Not having flash means if you miss your Q, you are pretty much useless if they start kiting you.

[Tonko]

I don't miss my Q for initiation, I pick a minion usually and get in with no issues.

[Rivero]

It's a bit presumptuous of you to say you won't ever miss a Q, there are plenty of locations where no minions are present (Dragon/Baron/Jungle) where team fights can occur. I'm not saying don't go Clarity on Amumu, I'm saying that don't expect to do well against a team that knows how to punish you for not using Flash.

[Bweigelt]

It's a bit presumptuous of you to say you won't ever miss a Q, there are plenty of locations where no minions are present (Dragon/Baron/Jungle) where team fights can occur. I'm not saying don't go Clarity on Amumu, I'm saying that don't expect to do well against a team that knows how to punish you for not using Flash.

Flash is a crutch for most people though, you shouldn't go in planning on missing Q's. It may be presumptuous to say you won't ever miss a Q but that's why flash is bad, it doesn't punish people for missing Q's. If you miss a Q you it should cost you big, not be an "oh well, I can just flash in anyway" type of situation.

[Tonko]

And the range on flash is oh so laughable now.

[Kisamoo]

99% of players use Flash wrong anyways. It is so easy to bait out Flashes as a Jungler even when my gank attempts have no chance of actually killing them.

Watching Tournament matches can provide great insight on when and how to use Flash effectively.

[Ramor]

Anyone ever want to play a game? I play with my friends a lot (in the same room-friends that is) and we're good but either I play DPS and we rape if we have a competent tank (or lose without one) or I play tank and lose because our DPS fucking sucks shit all game. I love this game, I love playing Leona (PLD tank from FFXI yes-fucking-please, PRAISE THE SUN) and have been playing her almost exclusively now, if anyone wants to play my LoL account name is SandpaperDemonj (fucking finger at the end of typing that out, too lazy to restart). I'd love to play with some BGers as I know if you've played FFXI you've been through hell and back trying your fucking balls off to be good at a game. Come find me, I'm a great tank that loves initiating (0-5-40 sound good to you?) and I'm definitely not afraid to die at any point to either save people or trade 1-x (x>=2 that is). Let me know, I love playing and I'm pretty awesome at early game once I hit 2, being a tank is fucking awesome.

[Aero]

From what Ive seen even pre-flash-nerf ghost Amumu was better than flash Amumu in the first place. What ghost does as opposed to flash is one of 3 things. It causes a grouping of 5 people to either:

1. Run away which usually causes a split in their team giving your team an advantage in a confrontation.
2. Focus you; which, as Amumu, you want to have happen.
3. Catch several people in your ult.

Also ideally you want to not bandage toss into a group. Its best to chain stun someone of importance. Ult > Toss is like a 4 second stun on one person that shouldn't ever miss.

Anyone ever want to play a game?

BG actually has its own chat room; "BGLoL". If Im online I'm almost always up for a game on SR(Dont really like dominion). Feel free to toss an invite; if I dont accept Im probably playing arranged 5s.