Old League of Legends Thread

**enzan** · 2011-11-26 14:10

our taric sucked though

**chazzyphizzle** · 2011-11-26 14:22

leavin' little old graves to fend for himself bot against big mean shyvana and akali, FOR SHAME

**enzan** · 2011-11-26 15:48

at least he got first blood though

**Lebzile** · 2011-11-26 16:27

I hate a seething hatred for solo queue, I don't know why I fucking play this game when it is impossible to get past the 1300 elo range because of stupid spicks and chinks that play this fucking game. I have already broken 1 mouse and keyboard because of my anger over solo queue. Why doesn't riot put a god damn IP block on this game already?

**Serif** · 2011-11-26 17:43

Originally Posted by Leb

I hate a seething hatred for solo queue, I don't know why I fucking play this game when it is impossible to get past the 1300 elo range because of stupid spicks and chinks that play this fucking game. I have already broken 1 mouse and keyboard because of my anger over solo queue. Why doesn't riot put a god damn IP block on this game already?

umadbro

**chazzyphizzle** · 2011-11-26 17:46

he mad

Tonko · 2011-11-26 17:54

So very mad. He's going to be even madder momentarily.

**enzan** · 2011-11-27 01:39

i agree with him, fucking 4v5s all day in solo Q

**ringthree** · 2011-11-28 09:15

Newbie questions: I have "purchased" (with the free points) Ashe and Gangplank. Who else should I buy as a newbie?

Only level 8 right now, I shouldn't worry about runes until level 20 right?

Can someone explain jungling? I get the concept, but are you like in the jungle all the time or do you lane mostly and then at certain levels you kill certain mobs? Also what is the order for the mobs? When can I get blue and red without dying?

How good is moba fire, when it comes to builds? I don't know what the fuck items I am buying so I just buy what the guides tell me to buy. Is that ok?

**Fallyn** · 2011-11-28 10:07

Originally Posted by ringthree

Newbie questions: I have "purchased" (with the free points) Ashe and Gangplank. Who else should I buy as a newbie?

There are a lot of champs that are newb friendly, others that spring to mind are Annie (AP carry), Yi (Jungle or lane) - most of the cheaper champs are "easy" to get to know.

Originally Posted by ringthree

Only level 8 right now, I shouldn't worry about runes until level 20 right?

Correct.

Originally Posted by ringthree

Can someone explain jungling? I get the concept, but are you like in the jungle all the time or do you lane mostly and then at certain levels you kill certain mobs? Also what is the order for the mobs? When can I get blue and red without dying?

Jungling is when you level up in the jungle off neutral creeps, rather than the lane. This allows 2 lanes (usually solo top and solo mid) to get better farm and better exp/level faster, because their EXP isn't being split.

You can't jungle with anyone (although next patch might make that nearly possible) but you basically do the 'jungle routes' for the 'jungle champs' (which can vary a lot, but most if not all routes will be outlined in guides at mobafire, solomid or leaguecraft). This usually entails staying in the jungle until you get both red and blue buff, then you "gank" other lanes to secure kills, make them waste their summoner spells (flash especially after summoner lv12) or just give your team better lane presence. The downside to this is at low ELO and low levels, people dont often jungle because you will be 2v1 top most of the time.

After successful ganks, you head back to your jungle to level some more and keep ganking when necessary. There are also counter-junglers that roam into the enemy jungle to stop their jungler, etc.

Originally Posted by ringthree

How good is moba fire, when it comes to builds? I don't know what the fuck items I am buying so I just buy what the guides tell me to buy. Is that ok?

Mobafire is ok, personally I check out solomid first but it's all down to preference - leaguecraft is also an alright one.

http://www.solomid.net
http://www.leaguecraft.com

**ringthree** · 2011-11-28 10:33

Originally Posted by Fallyn

There are a lot of champs that are newb friendly, others that spring to mind are Annie (AP carry), Yi (Jungle or lane) - most of the cheaper champs are "easy" to get to know.

Correct.

Jungling is when you level up in the jungle off neutral creeps, rather than the lane. This allows 2 lanes (usually solo top and solo mid) to get better farm and better exp/level faster, because their EXP isn't being split.

You can't jungle with anyone (although next patch might make that nearly possible) but you basically do the 'jungle routes' for the 'jungle champs' (which can vary a lot, but most if not all routes will be outlined in guides at mobafire, solomid or leaguecraft). This usually entails staying in the jungle until you get both red and blue buff, then you "gank" other lanes to secure kills, make them waste their summoner spells (flash especially after summoner lv12) or just give your team better lane presence. The downside to this is at low ELO and low levels, people dont often jungle because you will be 2v1 top most of the time.

After successful ganks, you head back to your jungle to level some more and keep ganking when necessary. There are also counter-junglers that roam into the enemy jungle to stop their jungler, etc.

Mobafire is ok, personally I check out solomid first but it's all down to preference - leaguecraft is also an alright one.

http://www.solomid.net
http://www.leaguecraft.com

First of all, <3 you for all the good information.

What is the farm order when jungling? Can I start jungling from level 1?

Additionally, I am really feeling carry's right now, because I play very defensively at the beginning. It looks like Yi and Annie are good carry's (although what is the different between a carry and an AP carry?), what are some other carry's?

**Trocian** · 2011-11-28 10:46

Originally Posted by ringthree

What is the farm order when jungling? Can I start jungling from level 1?

You can theoretically start right away at level 1, if you have the right champion for it. It does get significantly easier with runes though. Defensive runes such as +armor helps quite a bit.

(although what is the different between a carry and an AP carry?), what are some other carry's?

Carries are either AD(Attack Damage) or AP(Ability Power), basically it's physical or magic damage.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/champions has some good info on all champions, and their tags generally shows you what to expect, support/ranged/tank and so on. The 'recommended' tag is good to look for if you're after an easier champion to start out with. A few tags are a bit off, but it's a good start.

**Dantrag** · 2011-11-28 11:09

It's hard as hell to farm w/o full set of runes. You can usually do small camps til 4 then do buff mobs w/o runes though. GP maybe a decent starter to attempt jungling with. I know on my second account I had a hell of a time trying to jungle with Yi sub 20.

**chazzyphizzle** · 2011-11-28 17:37

gotta buy dem luck+ runes for yi jungling

**Aero** · 2011-11-28 22:30

If you want to jungle at low levels(Without runes) You need someone who can sustain themselves. Gangplank can not do this.

Udyr, Trundle, Skarner, Lee Sin, Nocturne, Fiddlesticks, Nunu, Shaco; are known as the best junglers because of their ability to stay at high health during the jungling phase and have exceptional ganks. If you honestly want to jungle at low levels without runes your best bet in Fiddlesticks. Just keep in mind youll need a strong leash on blue as you have no armor or cdr runes.

(A leash is when someone, preferably mid, attacks the golem from the other side of the brush to attempt to make it chase them. During this time the jungler and the other laners help you get the golem to low health. When the golem gives up on chasing the leasher it will aggro the closest person to it, mainly you; the jungler. Make sure to smite it to kill it that way people cant steal your golem.)

On the likely chance at your level there will be a 2v1 top. Keep in mind it is NOT your job to gank it over and over, the tower will be the 1st to fall no matter what you do. Your job as the jungler is to control the map and map objectives as well as make sure your other lanes win. Once you clear your jungle start donating your blue to your mid lane and take their blue for yourself. Ganking bottom is almost always the best choice to gank(Of course the lane that is farthest extended is best). Think of it like this:

Gank top = 2v2 and seeing as your top lane will be getting zoned it will be hard to get a kill as you will be the weaker team there.
Gank mid = 2v1 Usually the highest burst and CC. Great to gank problem being the minions fight very close to both towers and thus hard to kill.
Gank bottom = 3v2 Usually has decent CC and great damage output. Minions fight farthest away from their tower and several ways to gank. Most likely place to get a kill.

**Serif** · 2011-11-28 23:42

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/volibear-patch-notes

Patch changes also here

Spoiler: show

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/c...-thunders-roar

**Dantrag** · 2011-11-29 08:31

wtf at phreaks build for volibear... so confusing.

**Tyrath** · 2011-11-29 08:45

Janna has an ice skin. Tor is gonna be happy, too bad she isn't a loli.

http://imgur.com/a/efNHG

Originally Posted by Dantrag

wtf at phreaks build for volibear... so confusing.

Why? He has no AD abilities. 2 of them scale off AP. ANd you want to focus HP and CDR on him. I would probably add warmogs though.

**Dantrag** · 2011-11-29 09:41

Just seems like Frost Mallet would have been better and maybe some AS instead of Shurelias.

**Loan** · 2011-11-29 10:00

Volibear seems like a really viable tank.. I dont play tanks but this guy seems pretty useful and should be a terror out of the jungle with +movement speed, a flip, AND a slow..

The jungle changes though are going to take a while to get used to..

And damn Dan, you play ranked games like it's going out of style..

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