Old League of Legends Thread

**Zanz L. Barre The 3rd** · 2011-11-30 04:47

Nocturne is a great jungler and a good balance between glass cannon and semi-tanky. His magic shield is fantastic.

**Dantrag** · 2011-11-30 07:25

Jungling is fucked up...

Its too high risk no reward for failed ganks. You lose so much exp if you go gank...

Edit:

heh Morello

Hey folks,

After letting the jungle settle for a day and not only reading the feedback on the forums, but watching streamers, discussing with high-level players, and running some additional internal testing and mathcraft, we will be making changes to the jungle, likely tomorrow.

What will be the scope of these changes, and what are we trying to fix?

* XP Rate: This isn't as smoothed out as we'd liked (or was intended) and has been the most noticeable problem in the new jungle. While we do think this is not as drastically far off as some believe, it is lower than intended. We'll likely make updates here, especially relating to small camps.

* Penalty of missed ganks: While we do like this tradeoff, we don't like the tradeoff ratio here, something you guys have also felt pretty substantially. Changes made will effect this for the better, whether in increased reward or reduced resource loss.

* Gold Rate: Jungler gold is slightly lower than needed, and this is also related to small camp gold. We will be more careful here as to not make counter-jungling worse (since it revolves largely on stealing the big monsters out of camps), but will be evaluating this.

Classick, Guinsoo and I will be doing some final proposals and mathcraft in the morning, in hopes to release it in a hotfix. I'll try to provide status updates as we get more information. Details to come.

**Minardi** · 2011-11-30 11:22

Hmm, it's interesting to see how they are trying to shake it up.. At least they're reading everything and trying to help make it better so quickly?

**Dantrag** · 2011-11-30 11:39

Jungling sucks ass now. Skarner is pretty much one of the top tier junglers due to his aoe now. Not that he wasn't before but he clears it so much faster than single target junglers. The XP rate and gold rate is so far behind even duo lane it's not even funny. I was level 4 trying to gank level 5 bot lane. Didn't make any fkn sense.

**enzan** · 2011-11-30 12:32

They are patching the jungle tomorrow to fix shit since the high elo players bitched at them.

**Serif** · 2011-11-30 15:38

Just faced a Zil in Dominion who played the same role as a Rammus/Eve/Shaco BDer...

Holy shit that is so fucking annoying. Especially if they get a QSS or have Cleanse

**Dantrag** · 2011-11-30 16:19

I hate people that just sit and BD

takes the fun out of it.

Tonko · 2011-11-30 17:29

I personally didn't mind the new jungle, but it did make you pretty reliant on successful ganks.

**Penthesilea** · 2011-11-30 17:33

Originally Posted by Tonko

I personally didn't mind the new jungle, but it did make you pretty reliant on successful ganks.

I ended up going shaco and essentially just counter jungled their nocturn. Started off stealing his red and wraith from the get go while our Vayne tried to jungle. Let's just say I was more successful. Ended up losing the game due to terrible tanks and a badly timed Baron attempt

**chazzyphizzle** · 2011-11-30 17:39

tanks plural?

**Jinn** · 2011-11-30 18:24

lolwut?

**Tyrath** · 2011-11-30 18:31

Originally Posted by Jinn

lolwut?

Shyvana and Volibear's knock up locks her abilities.

**Penthesilea** · 2011-11-30 21:12

Yeah... Alistar and Leona as tanks with Vayne, Shaco, and I forget the last. Leona and I crippled Ashe and Sona bot but I got caught out of position and our Baron attempt (which wasn't necessary) ended up costing with an ace

**enzan** · 2011-12-01 02:45

Edits that Morello made to his post about jungle.

EDIT: This update is going into testing now. Based on the results, I'll share details. Timeframe is moved to most likely tomorrow (Thursday) to ensure accuracy. I'll continue to update this thread.

EDIT 2: We've been testing this evening with good results. Stay tuned for final details either later tonight or tomorrow afternoon.

EDIT 3: I do want to set appropriate expectations - XP will not be the same as pre-patch (outlevelling solo's). Our target is between solo's and duos for most the game, with you falling behind to duo if getting owned and pulling ahead if you snowball heavily. Junglers should have a big impact on the game, but not run the game like they were pre-patch. There's a happy medium here we're looking to get to.

**altwight** · 2011-12-01 10:27

when did blaming everything you did wrong on the jungler become blaming the support?

**Shade** · 2011-12-01 11:33

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=1547572

HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE

**Loan** · 2011-12-01 15:37

Originally Posted by altwight

when did blaming everything you did wrong on the jungler become blaming the support?

Because now blaming the jungler would get a "new jungle's bad" response that you really couldnt argue with.. Don't think i've ever seen a support get blamed before to be honest..

**Serif** · 2011-12-01 16:33

So tired of when people don't ban Yorick for Dominion.

At least make a champ that can go toe to toe with him throughout the entire match and not just early/mid/late only.

**Dantrag** · 2011-12-02 21:36

Some of these aren't bad.

L
O
L

**Dantrag** · 2011-12-06 09:26

http://competitive.na.leagueoflegend..._name=Dantragk

lol top 10k players(that play ranked)

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