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  1. #4581
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    Yep. This game was intended to be played in 5's. Solo queue is there really to just test certain match-ups and tighten mechanical skills such as last hitting/aggressive playstyles and seeing what you can get away with etc.

    It's a shame too since playing competitive 5's is really fun, I really loved it. The rest of the game gets pretty boring though.

  2. #4582
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    My computer crashed I reinstalled it but haven't logged in since. 1605 was my highest rank. Don't think I'm going to play anymore.

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    leaving me all alone ;(

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    You could always try playing non ranked. Just for fun, you know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrath View Post
    You could always try playing non ranked. Just for fun, you know
    Eh click click click click last hit click click click click click last hit. After the jungle changes the game really went down hill for me. New jungle sucks ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantrag View Post
    Eh click click click click last hit click click click click click last hit. After the jungle changes the game really went down hill for me. New jungle sucks ass.
    Whats jungling? I gave up on SR the day Dominion came out. Faster games, faster action, no boring farming. Would've probably quit by now if not for Dominion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrath View Post
    Whats jungling? I gave up on SR the day Dominion came out. Faster games, faster action, no boring farming. Would've probably quit by now if not for Dominion.
    I used to have fun in the old jungle. Was fun when counter jungling and when ganks mattered. Getting fucking 6 gold for small creeps is silly.

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    Counter jungling still matters. Ganks still matter. I think you were playing a different game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sup3rB4d View Post
    Counter jungling still matters. Ganks still matter. I think you were playing a different game.
    Countering small camps doesn't have the same effect. Countering buffs does. Gank attempts that fail are extremely detrimental to the jungler now and put them behind in gold/xp by a huge amount where as a successful gank defiantly helps the lane but again, doesn't do as much for the jungler as it used to.

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    Countering small camps has a bigger effect if you ONLY kill the main mob.

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    Yeah countering small camps is just as effective as it has always been if you just leave one creep. Ganking and failing has always put you behind even if you ganked right after clearing creeps. The only reason that ganking and failing is slightly worse in the new jungle is because you can farm so much more now.

    Also keep in mind that even if you don't get a kill your gank still usually matters. You could force them to use a summoner or at minimum force them off of creeps. If they aren't getting cs and you aren't getting cs its usually better for you because there are more creeps in lane being missed than in the jungle.

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    I dont get why people say failed ganks are so terrible now; then later go on to say counter jungling isnt worth it. Being able to kill 2 small camps while leaving a small creep is the equivalent to them 'fail ganking'.

    The way I jungle is aggressive counter jungling. Making sure there are always fights at their buffs when they spawn a 2nd time. Counter jungling also provides better angles to gank with.

    Some counter jungling notes:
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    7:10 is usually when mid hasnt gone back yet and they just dinged 6 so their blue isnt warded(Dragon might be). If there jungler isnt there within 10 seconds of their buff spawning you usually get a free blue(Worst case scenario they steal yours); if he is make sure your mid and side lane know you will need help.

    Do the same with their red(assuming they do the regular route). If you can control their 1st few buffs you will snowball over their jungle and their mid if you donate your buffs to him.

    Also know the respawn timers on small camps and general clear time/route for most junglers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aero View Post
    I dont get why people say failed ganks are so terrible now; then later go on to say counter jungling isnt worth it. Being able to kill 2 small camps while leaving a small creep is the equivalent to them 'fail ganking'.

    The way I jungle is aggressive counter jungling. Making sure there are always fights at their buffs when they spawn a 2nd time. Counter jungling also provides better angles to gank with.

    Some counter jungling notes:
    Spoiler: show

    7:10 is usually when mid hasnt gone back yet and they just dinged 6 so their blue isnt warded(Dragon might be). If there jungler isnt there within 10 seconds of their buff spawning you usually get a free blue(Worst case scenario they steal yours); if he is make sure your mid and side lane know you will need help.

    Do the same with their red(assuming they do the regular route). If you can control their 1st few buffs you will snowball over their jungle and their mid if you donate your buffs to him.

    Also know the respawn timers on small camps and general clear time/route for most junglers.
    Before I uninstalled, ^ this

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    Which runes would you pick for Morderkeiser ? I use AP tree . Any suggestion?

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HL9bkIo6Po

    This is the top 5 plays of the week that the guy posts each week. Look at the number 2 Wukong and his juke. I laughed for a bit on it

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    I've seen a juke similar to that with LeBlanc. Her clone pops, and she sends that walking off for a second to take the enemy's attention before she herself moves in the opposite direction with a jump or two.

    Gonna have to check out a few more of those videos.

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    Yeah the number 1 Heimerdinger on that video was amazing as well. How he didnt die ... wow

  18. #4598
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    Protato Monster always has good clips

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    I remember reading that illusions don't have buffs displayed on them, is that true? I realize that the video was from Wukong's perspective, but shouldn't the others have noticed the buffs on what they thought was the decoy?

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    I love juking over walls with Leblanc vs people who can jump walls too and then jumping right back once they are gone @_@

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