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  1. #4601
    Sea Torques
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    Shaco's illusions shows buffs, so I dont see why wukongs wouldnt. If they didnt, there wouldnt be much of a point in using them

  2. #4602
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rehont View Post
    Shaco's illusions shows buffs, so I dont see why wukongs wouldnt. If they didnt, there wouldnt be much of a point in using them
    Unless they changed it recently no clones showed buffs. No LB WK Shaco clones had buffs.

  3. #4603
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantrag View Post
    Unless they changed it recently no clones showed buffs. No LB WK Shaco clones had buffs.
    In Dominion, the real Shaco and LB has the passive crystal scar buff, thats how I tell for him =x Not sure about Wukong heh

  4. #4604
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meian View Post
    In Dominion, the real Shaco and LB has the passive crystal scar buff, thats how I tell for him =x Not sure about Wukong heh
    Last I used him buff will just disappear when he uses his shadow.

  5. #4605
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    Unless this was some ninja patch the other day, it still did it for me. I'll try to grab a SS the next time I see him.

  6. #4606
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    Just got the hang of Kass. Fun char....

  7. #4607
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    I think Kass is the typical insta-ban these days. He's quite strong

  8. #4608
    Sea Torques
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    looking for a champ to play as jungler. Udyr or shaco?

  9. #4609
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    They're both great junglers. Udyr is the much safer bet(In terms of jungle safety and midgame transiton), while Shaco depends on his early game(Level 2-5 ganks are unmatchable). The biggest thing that should sway the vote though is that Shaco is banned in almost every draft mode. Not to mention Udyr is one of the best solo tops as well.

  10. #4610
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanz L. Barre The 3rd View Post
    I think Kass is the typical insta-ban these days. He's quite strong
    Sion shits all over Kass. Although he's often banned. You can go Wukong/GP/Ryze. They destroy Kass as well.

  11. #4611
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    sion shits all over everybody

  12. #4612
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    I hate Kassadin with a passion. Silence is, honestly, the most annoying status effect in the game. The fact he has a ranged one on a short cooldown that also doubles as a very strong poking move is annoying as hell. Would be interesting if they swapped the status effects of his Nullsphere and toilet-flush-sounding spray.

  13. #4613
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    ...Cone silence? That'd be ridiculous.

  14. #4614
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    Could someone teach me how to play Udyr jungle right... I'm failing quite hard with him but he seems so much fun to play lol

  15. #4615
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azuark View Post
    Could someone teach me how to play Udyr jungle right... I'm failing quite hard with him but he seems so much fun to play lol

  16. #4616
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    Skill order: Phoenix, Turtle, Phoenix, Bear, then max Phoenix, then turtle, then bear, and last Tiger.
    Attack Speed reds, Armor Yellows, MR blues, And your choice of Movespeed, Attack speed, or Armor Pen quints. I prefer Movespeed.
    Cloth armor +5 pots
    Start wolves with help
    leash on blue
    Wraiths, small golems, go b and buy boots.
    Do red, and then start ganking when the opportunities avail themselves, alternating with keeping small camps cleared.
    Udyr is a VERY strong counter jungler, he can 1v1 almost any jungler out there. Watch for their jungle, if you see him top, do his bot small camps, if you see him bot, do top small camps. Always leave one small minion alive.
    Standard initiate with bear run in and stun. Switch to phoenix if not being attacked back, turtle if they stay and fight. Switch stances about every two seconds, master this pace so that your Tri Force will be proccing every day.
    First buy should be a recurve bow into a Wit's End.
    Other good buys for him are Madred's Bloodrazor, Triforce, Force of Nature, Randuin's Omen, and Frozen Heart.

  17. #4617
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    Thanks I'll try that out when i play him again

  18. #4618
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    Oh, do i turn the cloth armor into a lantern?

  19. #4619
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    Phoenix udyr does not need a lantern. Try just holding it and building it into ninja tabis(if team doesnt have CC)/ aegis/ or randuins.

  20. #4620
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    Start regrowth + pot not cloth+5. Early Philo stone is all Udyr needs to sustain jungle without using turtle.

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