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  1. #4861
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    I kinda want that skin even though I never play her. Any other Vday skins leaked?

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    Not sure why people are acting like they've made a valid argument against me saying jungle Kayle is viable.

    All I've heard so far is pointless comparisons of champions that have nothing to do with Kayle. Yes, different champs bring different things to the table that doesn't make them useless or not viable. In every situation I've jungled Kayle it has been appropriate for the team.

    Unfortunately I have not gone against a Lee Sin :/ I only have 19 wins under my belt with her as a jungler.

    Too continue my Kayle hype though, today we were doing a game and our Topsin dc'd at start leaving me to lane with smite against a J4. Now I know that J4 is pretty hard countered by Kayle.

    We won a 4v5 after 47minutes.

    The only problem is that Kayle's damage drops off in the late late game, around the 50+ minute mark. This is when the AD and AP carries start buying defensive items like GA and stuff.

    I am not saying Kayle is the best jungler and is better than any of the top tier junglers, I am simply saying she is viable for her team with solid ganks, nice damage and good survivability.
    When I said I had destroyed the junglers I said I beat, by destroyed I meant, effectively counter jungle, (they're top, blue is spawning soon, okay lets go blue) out CS'd them by atleast 80 before 30 minute mark and pulled off more effective ganks than them.

    Yea they were bad junglers probably but at the elo I'm at I don't have to worry about TOP TIER playstyles.

    1300

    edit; Oh, Kayle doesn't do so good against dragon solo early game. One game they had no jungler (wat?) and I decided to go for a 8min drag and got destroyed. Was embarassed.

  3. #4863
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    Dragon is still exactly the same way it was a lot of people didn't realize that. After the jungle patch there were so many people dying solo to it, lol. Even now you see people failing to kill it a fair a bit from people doing irregular junglers. Personally I've always loved playing Kayle but not many people like you playing her.

  4. #4864
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    Quote Originally Posted by orson View Post
    Dragon is still exactly the same way it was a lot of people didn't realize that. After the jungle patch there were so many people dying solo to it, lol. Even now you see people failing to kill it a fair a bit from people doing irregular junglers. Personally I've always loved playing Kayle but not many people like you playing her.
    I can't tell you how many times I've had tryndamere/kayle destroy diving under towers. Kinda absurd combo.

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    jungle alistar is where its at now or ezreal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthesilea View Post
    I can't tell you how many times I've had tryndamere/kayle destroy diving under towers. Kinda absurd combo.
    What is that, about 8 seconds of "can't die" mode?

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    Couldn't sleep so was awake at around 5 or 6 am, of course the server decides to have messed up queues where people can't see champs/bans or even connect... for almost 8 hours now -_-

    Got two games in with Shen, he "feels" better but still need to play more to know where this puts him. Different build ideas in the air besides just purely HP stacking~

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    Which one would you pick , ziggs or cassio ?

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    Cass got her AP ratio on noxious and her claw damage reduced this patch didnt she?

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    Ziggs is free try him out so you can feel it (cassio was free the other week or so)

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    cass is still very very strong, .1 on her Q ratio and 10 base damage on claw really isn't that big a deal. ziggs is probably more fun though, sometimes.

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    New champ is fun fun fun so far

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meian View Post
    Got two games in with Shen, he "feels" better but still need to play more to know where this puts him. Different build ideas in the air besides just purely HP stacking~
    gonna have to respectfully disagree, i fucking dominated the shit out of my top lanes and then the rest of the game when i went solo top..

    boots > heart of gold > finish boots > aegis > wits end > rylais > hog to iron locket, etc. build the rest how their team is.

    just fucking started devastating when i finished my wits end. having ki strike up so much is seriously a huge huge advantage.



    jungle seems very viable but situational.. better off at top.

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    I'd probably actually get sunfire on shen. The only champion I would probably ever build it on. He can splitpush with his global and generate a lot of pressure.

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    Doesn't matter how buffed shen is he still needs more. I demand that he be able to carry the entire team and one hit everyone on the opposing side. However i will settle for a new ranking system not based on luck of the draw with retarded teammates. Beat wukong top by 100 CS while enemy vayne goes 7/0 bot ;( couldn't even save them with my ult because they fought on the enemy turret.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arvin View Post
    gonna have to respectfully disagree, i fucking dominated the shit out of my top lanes and then the rest of the game when i went solo top..

    boots > heart of gold > finish boots > aegis > wits end > rylais > hog to iron locket, etc. build the rest how their team is.

    just fucking started devastating when i finished my wits end. having ki strike up so much is seriously a huge huge advantage.



    jungle seems very viable but situational.. better off at top.
    I play dominion... SR has been dead to me for months...

    Wits End is something I've been noticing on new Shen so I need to give it a try also

  17. #4877
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    Funny to see Shen banned in high elo games.

    He is fucking OP as hell in top lane. He never dies or has to B :L

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    2 shens in every game when I play normals, pretty hilarious. He is amazing now though, so much damage with just a wits end and bunch of tank items, it's nuts.

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    Will probably get nerfed next patch lol.

    Nautilus is fuuuuun. I love that he has Fizz's ult except better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serif View Post
    Funny to see Shen banned in high elo games.

    He is fucking OP as hell in top lane. He never dies or has to B :L
    Went bot in Dominion as Shen because our Ziggs didn't want to...

    Vs. Pantheon, completely wrecked him with over half my hp left lol, maxing out Feint first = too good (he rushed Frozen Heart and was building Atma's)

    They changed with Rumble, same deal (Riven came once and I could almost solo her but she was just too fed)

    Eventually they had to put both and ult to kill me :\ We lost because our last pick was a Leona when we had me as Shen and Alistar already -_-

    Had Randuins, Merc's, Wit's End, Sunfire, Rylai by the game's end

    Freaking SR if they nerf him because of that damn map him being "op" in D:

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