Old League of Legends Thread

**Tyrath** · 2012-09-21 09:49

Why don't they just add in a try out new champs for free option while they're at it? It's made for mistakes. Theres no reason for them to allow you to have a refund every few months.

**Conrad** · 2012-09-21 10:10

Originally Posted by Tyrath

Why don't they just add in a try out new champs for free option while they're at it?

not sure if serious...

**Cleverness** · 2012-09-21 10:20

Yea i'm with Skirk, dunno if being sarcastic or not.

I'm not sure what's peoples rush in buying a champ right after release is. The champ always goes on free rotation 2-3 weeks after they are released, and there's no way of knowing how they play from beta to launch and there's always that fear of knowing the champ might be 'meh'. With the exception of Diana I've never bought a champ at full price, always on sale or occasionally with IP.

**Tyrath** · 2012-09-21 10:21

Originally Posted by Skirkle

not sure if serious...

Meaning the week they come out, herp.

You buy, play them, refund.

**Conrad** · 2012-09-21 10:35

only champ I've bought on release is lulu, and that's because I'm a support main. I buy everything with IP though

**Tyrath** · 2012-09-21 10:41

Thats understandable. But you have to understand a lot of Riot's money comes from the release date champs. Giving people the option to refund something every few months will bite into their bank. Theres no way they would do it.

On the other hand I've bought every champ since like MF on release day, keeps the game fresh for me. Most of them were with IP, but Syndra is only like the 3rd one where I'm like fuuuuuck do not want.

**Mrbeansman** · 2012-09-21 13:01

This doing it right on Ahri?

**Aeowin** · 2012-09-21 13:01

There's no reason to not have unlimited refunds and switches on things bought with RP seeing how, you buy the rp, riot already made that money. Refunding ingame currency that has no real value once added to an account just makes it better for players to enjoy more content. Obviously an unlimited refund system shouldn't be a full refund, like 70% or something. Or limitations that for example, you refund Ashe, and buy Annie, you aren't allowed to refund Annie because you used refunded RP to buy it.

All they have to do is put in stipulations like that and it'd be fine.

But as for the 3 lifetime, that's still stupid. 3 per season would be logical. Or like, once all 3 are used, you get ONE refreshed every 3 months and if you have one sitting there, it won't refresh to two.

**Aeowin** · 2012-09-21 13:04

Originally Posted by Coolbeans

This doing it right on Ahri?

Need DFG. Void Staff over abyssal since they only have one AP. Farm more. Hour long game should have 400 cs.

**Dantrag** · 2012-09-21 13:17

Not bad for level 29 though

better than I probably ever did until the past 6 months or so.

**Anakron** · 2012-09-21 14:25

Originally Posted by Aeowin

There's no reason to not have unlimited refunds and switches on things bought with RP seeing how, you buy the rp, riot already made that money. Refunding ingame currency that has no real value once added to an account just makes it better for players to enjoy more content.

That's like saying store gift cards have no value once you bought them. Of course RP has value even after added to an account. If they let you refund something, then you wouldn't need to buy more RP for your next RP purchase.

And tracking where RP came from would take a lot of work, especially because RP costs are different.

**Tyrath** · 2012-09-21 14:59

Originally Posted by Aeowin

There's no reason to not have unlimited refunds and switches on things bought with RP seeing how, you buy the rp, riot already made that money. Refunding ingame currency that has no real value once added to an account just makes it better for players to enjoy more content. Obviously an unlimited refund system shouldn't be a full refund, like 70% or something. Or limitations that for example, you refund Ashe, and buy Annie, you aren't allowed to refund Annie because you used refunded RP to buy it.

All they have to do is put in stipulations like that and it'd be fine.

But as for the 3 lifetime, that's still stupid. 3 per season would be logical. Or like, once all 3 are used, you get ONE refreshed every 3 months and if you have one sitting there, it won't refresh to two.

http://forum.3ice.hu/download/file.php?id=523

You wouldn't need to pay again to buy the next champ with unlimited refund. That means no more money for Riot.

Be happy that you have 3 refunds at all for mistakes you make, rather than bitching that they aren't giving you more. Once you buy their shit, they have no obligation to give you back anything.

**Cleverness** · 2012-09-21 15:11

Riot is already pretty generous when it comes to RP reimbursement/discounts(like getting RP/IP refunded when a champ goes down in price if you bought it recently, can get some RP returned if you purchased a champ before/after a recent sale of it, etc). Getting 3 full refunds that we can choose select ourselves is more convenient than having to send a ticket for it as is. They lose money if people just constantly refund it. Like for example I mentioned earlier I bought Diana on release for full price. About an hour ago I refunded her, bought Lulu on sale(haven't been playing alot since GW2 release + new job, plus I've been expanding my support roster) and now I have enough to grab Diana when she goes on sale in a few months. Convenient for me but they lose money there since I didn't need to load up money to grab Lulu.

tldr; don't buy a champ on release if you're the type of person who will regret it and has other things they could spend that money on ingame already. Wait for the free rotation then do it.

**Aeowin** · 2012-09-21 15:13

Both of you are retarded and can't read. Seeing how I said if you paid for one champion and refunded it to buy another, the system wouldn't let you refund the newly purchased champion because it was bought with refunded rp. And yeah, you buy something, refund it, buy something else, GUESS WHAT? YOU DON'T HAVE THE FIRST THING ANYMORE.

And what the fuck? You're comparing a store gift card to ingame currency? Once you put RP on your account, it no longer is worth dollars. It is now ingame currency and can't be traded or sold again for money. A gift card is a valued dollar amount which in theory, can be traded or sold to friends/family/random people for cash if you really wanted to.

**Cleverness** · 2012-09-21 15:18

You're the one crying about refund limits which is generally unprecedented in majority of other online games and other people are the retards, right. You keep thinking that bro. WHY CAN I ONLY GET BACK MY FULL PURCHASE PRICE FOR AN ITEM 3 TIMES, WHY NOT MORE. You're starting to sound like the generic morons on the official forums who aren't happy with getting good customer service and think you deserve more, keep it up lol.

**Hiryo** · 2012-09-21 16:40

Been spamming Syndra games, still <30. She needs some work yeah but I'm still pretty satisfied with my purchase. Need to figure out how to beat Akali mid though, I got massacred in that game. Pre 6 isn't TERRIBLE, i think the Q's break even. I think champs like her can't be harrassed with a standalone Q and must be Q->E->Q/W->back away or Ult+ignite. Meaning if you don't land the skillshot you can't go in on her

Tried to watch Salce play her but I don't think there are many videos

**Tyrath** · 2012-09-21 16:41

It doesn't matter if you don't have the first thing anymore. The most lucrative thing that makes Riot money is the ability to be able to play a champion when it comes out. Doesn't matter if you give it back, you've already gotten what you wanted from the champion. It still results in a net fucking loss for them because people will buy less RP because they can just reshuffle it around for multiple purchases with refunds. What about this do you have trouble understanding?

**Denchi** · 2012-09-21 21:28

Why don't people pick properly

Am I wrong in thinking first 3 picks should be ADC/Jungle/Support? Leaving last two to counter solo lanes?

I always pray I get top 3 pick, because I just suck it up and play support. If I'm ever bottom two first pick is ALWAYS mid and second is Top....they get countered, we lose.

**Dantrag** · 2012-09-21 22:03

You would think. But in solo no one trades because no one wants to support.

**Kisamoo** · 2012-09-22 10:59

Originally Posted by Tyrath

It doesn't matter if you don't have the first thing anymore. The most lucrative thing that makes Riot money is the ability to be able to play a champion when it comes out. Doesn't matter if you give it back, you've already gotten what you wanted from the champion. It still results in a net fucking loss for them because people will buy less RP because they can just reshuffle it around for multiple purchases with refunds. What about this do you have trouble understanding?

Give somebody an inch and they'll take a mile.

I'm thankful for the refund feature, refunded my Pulsefire Ezreal skin; Soccer Ezreal is way cooler and rarer. ;D

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