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  1. #7401
    Ridill
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    I meant when the enemy team is all pushed not your lanes. When all my lanes are pushed I c-c-c-counter jungle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skirkle View Post
    I'm pretty awful at it too, which sucks because I have two great Amumu skins (Pharaoh and Sad Robot). It's easily my worst role, but it seems to have gotten a little easier with Season 3 and the Machete/Spirit items in spite of the increased stats and health of neutral monsters. Is there some sort of jungle primer online that one could read or watch to learn the role better, and what are good starter junglers?
    I prefer shyvanna for jungle. Quick jungle clear and great ganks when you get your ult. Max burnout quick, rush frozen mallet and hydra then build rest according to their team comp. I usually go with exhaust/smite occasionally skipping smite and going exhaust/ghost.

    As far as ganking goes, when you get your ult position yourself behind your enemy when you gank and ult in and it will push them back towards your teammates/turret.

  3. #7403
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    shyvana is nice for the first couple clears, but later on she just does...nothing. i cannot stand her late game.

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    She's not terrible late game. Especially if you need somebody tanky to initiate

    But yeah I agree. Once laning phase is over her effectiveness drops off quickly. Just gotta hope to get some good ganks off before laning ends, if so you can easily shift the match in your favor

  5. #7405
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    she is pretty awful late game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denchi View Post
    I think I suck ass at Jungling. I have champs I feel very comfortable with, but it seems like everytime I jungle, all lanes lose hard. Then everyone asks for a gank, then I get blamed for the loss. I'm not sure what to do......

    I'm very map aware, pinging where their jungle is, seeing who needs helps, but if every lane gets shit on there's only so much I can do. I don't know how to carry from the jungle, I can help if people are somewhat competent, but I'm not sure what to do when everyone is failing.
    You are going to get blamed no matter what. Nothing to worry about really.

    I love getting blamed for not calling mia in mid, when I called mia less than 20 seconds previously, and it's still in the chat. It's not like 15 and 16 year olds are going to take responsibility for anything in game.

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    He was looking for a starter jungle tho. Sure Lee Sin is a strong jungler early and late game but a little more difficult to master. Olaf would be a good choice too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jinkazama View Post
    He was looking for a starter jungle tho. Sure Lee Sin is a strong jungler early and late game but a little more difficult to master. Olaf would be a good choice too.
    Olaf, Kha'Zix, Skarner, Amumu are all good ones. Riven, Xin are good gankers.

  9. #7409
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    Hecarim is pretty strong now and if you can get him to late game it is pretty much GG. Can easily carry with him IF you get to late game and are proficient. Mainly just rush to 6 and get a pretty easy kill. Cab gank pre 6 to make people blow summoners so your level 6 is pretty much guaranteed.

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    I need to unlock khazix one day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jinkazama View Post
    I need to unlock khazix one day.
    It's worth the RP or IP. Great champ.

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    If any one is interested Saint Vicious is doing a jungling "class" right now on J4

    http://www.twitch.tv/crs_saintvicious

    He also did to other jungling videos on Hec and Xin , has them on his Youtube

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    "Bot lane is usually useless to gank"

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    It's a fucking pain in the ass to gank that's for sure.

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    Another 12-0 game as Morde O.o This is becoming a trend for me

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    As for what to do if all you lanes are pushed and youre jungling. Tower diving is usually a bad idea unless you can 100% guarantee a kill, and not get counter ganked. Your safest bet is to counter jungle(Camps), or even go for a kill if you think you can pull it off. Just let your lanes know that you are invading and to come if you get into a fight. I personally prefer to ward their wraiths, farm my own jungle, and counter gank their jungler. You can quite often smite steal their large wraith with very little danger to yourself.

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    Korean scene is ridiculous. Najin, CJ Entus (Azubu) and now KT Rolster out of OGN Masters. WTF. Xenics vs MVP finals. Najin lost with their sword full roster in the end and CJ with frost full roster. ROFL

  18. #7418
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aero View Post
    As for what to do if all you lanes are pushed and youre jungling. Tower diving is usually a bad idea unless you can 100% guarantee a kill, and not get counter ganked. Your safest bet is to counter jungle(Camps), or even go for a kill if you think you can pull it off. Just let your lanes know that you are invading and to come if you get into a fight. I personally prefer to ward their wraiths, farm my own jungle, and counter gank their jungler. You can quite often smite steal their large wraith with very little danger to yourself.
    No I meant when they push all the lanes. And have everything warded to the hilt. Such a pain in the ass.

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    Well AP Trondomere is way more fun that it has any right being.

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    I was thinking about trying that out today when I get home. Sounds really fun from what I've been reading and I had one on my team when we had poor champ select communication. He almost carried us but the whole team was almost always out of position when the other team was pushing mid.

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