Old League of Legends Thread

[Aero]

With the dive meta Ez definitely gets use out of FG in nearly every game. He also really benefits more than other ADs from shiv for the wave clear(Without ult EZ is easily the worst AD to clear a minion wave) and the proc on his Q. You play EZ for his Q poke and mobility. If you want to build an AA-centric DPS build, dont play Ez; play someone like Vayne, Corki, or Kog.

[Kisamoo]

With the dive meta Ez definitely gets use out of FG in nearly every game. He also really benefits more than other ADs from shiv for the wave clear(Without ult EZ is easily the worst AD to clear a minion wave) and the proc on his Q. You play EZ for his Q poke and mobility. If you want to build an AA-centric DPS build, dont play Ez; play someone like Vayne, Corki, or Kog.

Alright I'm gonna break it down for everyone so this argument can stop once and for all.

I agree that Ezreal isn't primarily an auto attacker, there is no doubt about that, but for people to say that FG is completely viable on Ez and Trinity is shit is completely retarded. The two items serve completely different functions.

Originally, I said FG was incredibly niche and overrated on Ezreal, what I meant to say was that because of this trend, the sheep of LoL have completely disregarded Tri for FG. You build FG when you have 2+ threats diving you but you build Tri when you only have 1 threat diving you. That's all there is to it. FG provides absolutely 0 damage increase, and the AOE damage is negligible (people hit by AOE only recieve like 125% base AD dmg, nothing else). You're dropping 3000 gold for a minor amount of armor (useless without hp, multiplicative stats, people.) and AOE slow utility- which has its use. NICHE. In every other case if you want a slow build a fucking Tri. You're getting 25% more damage on hit than FG effect and a bunch of multiplicative stats that make any future AD item you buy much better! (for the retards, crit and aspd scale with AD, derp!)

To completely disregard Ezreal's ability to auto attack in favor of maximizing mystic shot damage by building only RAW ad is beyond stupid. There's a hero that does that but far better, Jayce. (1.6 scaling, AOE without stupid FG so you can put that 3k gold into damage, DERP!!!!!) In other words, don't fucking ignore ASPD and crit on Ezreal just because you want a cute blue pool around your mystic shot.

edit- people also seem to be forgetting why Tri was good in the first place: the recipe. Each piece provides great benefits along the way and you don't need the complete item to get the full effect. Look at FG in comparison, you're sitting on a Sheen and Glacial Shroud until you finish it, on an AD none the less. To add to that, Tri recipe is only 3 gold now.

[chazzyphizzle]

is clg's site down for anyone else or am i imagining things?

[m4th_]

so i just spent 6300 points into rengar and sheeeeeeit i feel like the dumbest player in the world.
is his learning curve that high or he just got nerfed to the ground last time? should've picked khazix instead? oh the doubts, and i was saving up for quinn. :<

[Pabst]

He got hit with a pretty good nerf a while back.

[Dantrag]

Sell him back and get Kha.

[ringthree]

so i just spent 6300 points into rengar and sheeeeeeit i feel like the dumbest player in the world.
is his learning curve that high or he just got nerfed to the ground last time? should've picked khazix instead? oh the doubts, and i was saving up for quinn. :<

Should have picked Kha'Zix.

As for FG vs. Tri-force on Ez, it's splitting hairs. You will always build Sheen, but the final decision is going to be based on how the game is going at the time. Tri-force frees up some space for more AD items (which may or may not be necessary) and provides more sheer damage, the FG is more for chasing and kiting. This stuff can't really be predicted prior to the game. I think the thought currently is more along the lines that FG is easier to complete and has some defensive stats. While that logic is definitely not iron-clad, it also is not without merit. The time and gold you are using to complete the Tri-force can go into an AS item, but you definitely get more damage out of it compared to the FG.

Shit is situational.

Edit: I just watched the TSM vs Vulcan game, and I would agree Tri-force would have been better. They needed slightly more damage, especially toward the end of the game. But what do I know?

[Tyrath]

Yeah I played Rengar after a while last night. Ewww.

Edit: Dat Darius and Garen nerf. And the taric nerf/buff wtf Incoming bruiser taric lol

[Serif]

so i just spent 6300 points into rengar and sheeeeeeit i feel like the dumbest player in the world.
is his learning curve that high or he just got nerfed to the ground last time? should've picked khazix instead? oh the doubts, and i was saving up for quinn. :<

He actually isnt that bad. Was OP back in the day but he is still viable top if you play him enough and understand the match ups.

[Tyrath]

He actually isnt that bad. Was OP back in the day but he is still viable top if you play him enough and understand the match ups.

Stop advising people on SR play and come actually play Dominion with us lol.

[Conrad]

[ringthree]

Yeah I played Rengar after a while last night. Ewww.

Edit: Dat Darius and Garen nerf. And the taric nerf/buff wtf Incoming bruiser taric lol

The Darius nerf is barely one, but it will help from letting him roflstomp lanes after 6. Garen lane sustain was stupid insane. Both were necessary.

[Gryffes]

I'm playing jungle taric at the moment. 2-0 so far ( lolsamplesize) .

[The_OG_Nelta]

Alright I'm gonna break it down for everyone so this argument can stop once and for all.

I agree that Ezreal isn't primarily an auto attacker, there is no doubt about that, but for people to say that FG is completely viable on Ez and Trinity is shit is completely retarded. The two items serve completely different functions.

Originally, I said FG was incredibly niche and overrated on Ezreal, what I meant to say was that because of this trend, the sheep of LoL have completely disregarded Tri for FG. You build FG when you have 2+ threats diving you but you build Tri when you only have 1 threat diving you. That's all there is to it. FG provides absolutely 0 damage increase, and the AOE damage is negligible (people hit by AOE only recieve like 125% base AD dmg, nothing else). You're dropping 3000 gold for a minor amount of armor (useless without hp, multiplicative stats, people.) and AOE slow utility- which has its use. NICHE. In every other case if you want a slow build a fucking Tri. You're getting 25% more damage on hit than FG effect and a bunch of multiplicative stats that make any future AD item you buy much better! (for the retards, crit and aspd scale with AD, derp!)

To completely disregard Ezreal's ability to auto attack in favor of maximizing mystic shot damage by building only RAW ad is beyond stupid. There's a hero that does that but far better, Jayce. (1.6 scaling, AOE without stupid FG so you can put that 3k gold into damage, DERP!!!!!) In other words, don't fucking ignore ASPD and crit on Ezreal just because you want a cute blue pool around your mystic shot.

edit- people also seem to be forgetting why Tri was good in the first place: the recipe. Each piece provides great benefits along the way and you don't need the complete item to get the full effect. Look at FG in comparison, you're sitting on a Sheen and Glacial Shroud until you finish it, on an AD none the less. To add to that, Tri recipe is only 3 gold now.

huh, nvm. I give up lol

useless item =/= situational

end argument is that a shit ton of other things outshine trinity for ez right now. Want atk speed? np shiv, want crit? np IE, want slow? np gauntlet

[Arvin]

Honestly I rarely ever get IG anymore. The loss of damage isnt worth it. Realistically you should be good enough to escape with flash, arcane shift and cleanse. Get scimitar for another cleanse if needed.

[Anakron]

So uuuh...how do I spectate random games in LoL? The top left window used to have like 5 games you can scroll through to spectate, but now when I log in, there's just the giant LCS tourney ad.

[Kisamoo]

huh, nvm. I give up lol

useless item =/= situational

end argument is that a shit ton of other things outshine trinity for ez right now. Want atk speed? np shiv, want crit? np IE, want slow? np gauntlet

And yet you've provided no argument for why 3000 gold for a slow is acceptable and really good. "Want slow? np gauntlet". Please do give up, you're stupid and nothing can penetrate your absent minded sheep brain. btw I'm just gonna reply to anything else about this as "np 3k for slow 0 dmg"

btw it was recently nerfed lost 1s slow, 5% cdr, 65 radius for ranged, 5% slow; it was op before these changes now it's trash. But sheep gunna keep being sheep cause these are tiny numbers and they don't matter right? Just as long as you get that sweet sweet op as fuck Season 3 defining Ezreal slow!

[The_OG_Nelta]

And yet you've provided no argument for why 3000 gold for a slow is acceptable and really good. "Want slow? np gauntlet". Please do give up, you're stupid and nothing can penetrate your absent minded sheep brain. btw I'm just gonna reply to anything else about this as "np 3k for slow 0 dmg"

btw it was recently nerfed lost 1s slow, 5% cdr, 65 radius for ranged, 5% slow; it was op before these changes now it's trash. But sheep gunna keep being sheep cause these are tiny numbers and they don't matter right? Just as long as you get that sweet sweet op as fuck Season 3 defining Ezreal slow!

Minimal damage from Trinity is as good as the kiting power and survivability from Gauntlet right?

It's personal preference, but whatever.

[D44kpunk]

ez sucks in general, he's only good in lane. he can't carry late in the meta right now

[Kisamoo]

Minimal damage from Trinity is as good as the kiting power and survivability from Gauntlet right?

It's personal preference, but whatever.

np 3k for slow 0 dmg

btw Ezreal sucks because tools builds IG while the other ADC just about finished their IE in return. But don't worry that slow will win you the game.