Old League of Legends Thread

**Arvin** · 2013-03-04 10:28

I still like BT on a few champs. Jayce is my only toplaner I don't buy bork on now.

**Nitsuki** · 2013-03-04 11:07

thanks to the BoRK, i don't even bother building BT anymore, just rush IE immediately, then the AS item, then of course GA, and LW/BC depending on who i'm dealing with.

**Dantrag** · 2013-03-04 11:29

Randiuns >>>>>>> GA.

**Akanei** · 2013-03-04 11:58

Originally Posted by ringthree

I have notice that people have already stopped building health over armor. The Bork is awesome against health, but I don't think that is going to be a lasting trend.

Also, how can you say Quinn is a top 3 adc already? Once people figure out the kit I don't see her being up there for long. I would give it more than a couple of days before coming to that conclusion. Trist is making a come back, Graves is still good. MF, Ez, etc. Although I do wish I hadn't sold back Varus for Graves when he was FotM. I liked Varus's kit better anyway.

BotRK replaces Bloodthirster and your first aspd item, not Last Whisper. They'd have to hard nerf the damn thing for it to not be a mandatory pickup. Even then, unless you're rocking a randuins+sfc (which is pretty damn expensive), blade+ie is going to chunk you, armor or not.

As for Quinn? Simply based on her kit, stats and ranges. She has amazing engage and disengage, with ridiculous sustained dps and a steroid that will, almost always, be up.

**Nitsuki** · 2013-03-04 19:51

Originally Posted by Dantrag

Randiuns >>>>>>> GA.

never thought of using a randuins for an ADC, care to explain why? i can only think of situational uses, GA would give me the free revive, and a little AR and MR also less expensive, while randuins will give me AR, HP, (i think they nerfed the CDR from it) and a damn good active but that's already being given to me w/ BoRK. Would it be the passive as well?

**Dantrag** · 2013-03-04 21:04

Originally Posted by Nitsuki

never thought of using a randuins for an ADC, care to explain why? i can only think of situational uses, GA would give me the free revive, and a little AR and MR also less expensive, while randuins will give me AR, HP, (i think they nerfed the CDR from it) and a damn good active but that's already being given to me w/ BoRK. Would it be the passive as well?

Randiuns is more effect HP. Will counter botrk and gives HP which will help with AP. Active helps people bruisers and since it's now 100% you'll win trades with other ADC np.

**Nitsuki** · 2013-03-04 21:07

Originally Posted by Dantrag

Randiuns is more effect HP. Will counter botrk and gives HP which will help with AP. Active helps people bruisers and since it's now 100% you'll win trades with other ADC np.

SNAP, i didn't realize that they made the passive 100%. I heard about combining this with BoRK and it's an incredible peel, so i'm gonna try this out now.

**Nitsuki** · 2013-03-04 23:09

and BoRK is getting nerfed, so many people bitching -_-

can anyone elaborate for me the differences between pre-mitigation and post-mitigation?

**Akanei** · 2013-03-05 00:25

It was obvious they were going to do it.

Edit: The active had the ability to outright drain 15% of a target's max health, in physical damage. This damage dealt was subjected to armor mitigation, so the value actually done was a post-mitigated value.

The heal side of the active ALWAYS gave you that 15%, or the pre-mitigated value.

You got a 4k hp cho with 200 armor? You're always going to heal for 600 hp on the active, even if he only took ~2-300.

**Nitsuki** · 2013-03-05 03:09

Thanks, now it makes sense to me.

**D44kpunk** · 2013-03-05 12:46

botrk is awesome, the tanky/bruiser meta for everything that we've been in for the last year+ has been stupid as fuck

**Qeomash** · 2013-03-05 15:34

I agree, the tank/bruiser meta is retarded and has been since...what, Garen came out?

Though, I guess they just hotfixed (hotnerfed) BotRK. I think Warmogs was more of a problem as everyone was buying it, but that apparently didn't warrant a hotfix.

**Meian** · 2013-03-05 15:56

Hotfixed Bork but not Black Cleaver or BFT until later patches, funny

**Dantrag** · 2013-03-05 16:19

Got to love it. Such an issue(though it's not as much as BC)...

**Nitsuki** · 2013-03-05 16:29

imo, there was no reason to nerf the minion max damage, last hitting was awesome with that thing, 350 gold increase is at most 1 more kill to do. But lowering the damage by another 5 was unnecessary, the post-mitigation active i can sorta understand, i guess. But i'm going to try the weapon again and see how badly it killed the ADCs. The passive is still there, the AS is still there which is actually still really good for ADCs, I actually like the BoRK, IE, LW/BC, PD combo still.

**Dantrag** · 2013-03-05 16:34

The damage nerf was really unneeded. Active nerf was the only thing that was needed. Cost increase to maybe 3k. But 3.2k or w/e it is now...

**Akanei** · 2013-03-05 20:54

Still strong on champions that scale hard with attack speed, or have abysmal mid-games. Wouldn't bother with it, now, on someone like Graves or MF.

**Nitsuki** · 2013-03-05 21:06

Exactly, i don't feel as bad since i use cait and trist more than graves, i barely use mf, and vayne, quinn and varus are my strongest adcs right now.

**Denchi** · 2013-03-05 22:01

Anyone know how to check win % with a champ? Lolking only has averages

I've been absolutely crushing it with Morde

(Edit*) Last 5 Morde Games: 10-0-12, 11-0-3, 7-2-7, 11-0-6, 10-4-16

**Gryffes** · 2013-03-06 06:38

Originally Posted by Denchi

Anyone know how to check win % with a champ? Lolking only has averages

I've been absolutely crushing it with Morde

(Edit*) Last 5 Morde Games: 10-0-12, 11-0-3, 7-2-7, 11-0-6, 10-4-16

Profile page in the client>League>See more stats>click champ, see win%.

Brag: 76.9% winrate on jarvan in gold

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