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  1. #7681
    Ze NinjaSYXX
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    Funny thing is that hec does a lot of damage on his own w/ E and ghost, the AP given by ice glove along w/ the life steal bonus from spirit visage are absolutely bs on his W. Also, i believe the build i mentioned above maximizes his CDR.

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    Atheist Douchebag.
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    CDR is REALLY awesome for Hec. I never get TF. The gauntlets are a better fit for him.

  3. #7683
    Sea Torques
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gryffes View Post
    The only reason not to get it, is if you value getting a bilgewater cutlass for the movement debuff/lifesteal instead, in which case you'll usually ride the madred+bilgewater until you have locket+giant belt completed. ( on non ap junglers ).
    This is mainly what I was getting at, although I added BT for Lee sin, Khazix, Riven, or something. I cant think of any jungler, who would use wriggles, where you wouldnt eventually want either BT or BotRK. And if you are getting BotRK in addition to wriggles you essentially set yourself back 900g.

    Also while wriggles is 3.35gp/10 in practice its going to be more of a ~2.5gp/10 (75% up time). Which isnt overly spectacular.

  4. #7684
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    You're ignoring clearspeed and matchups, vs low escape ads you don't need bilge.

    Anyway, made my best bluesteal ever last night, thresh Q blind over the backwall. Can't believe I wasn't running lolrecorder, it literally won the game because it fked their jungler so hard.

    Thinking maybe you could use the explorer ward to run in at 1:40, ward blue over the back and then steal vs the almost standard smiteless.

  5. #7685
    Sandworm Swallows
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    How the fuck do you play Udyr?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree View Post
    How the fuck do you play Udyr?
    You run at people mash all 4 buttons at the same time.

  7. #7687
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gryffes View Post
    You run at people mash all 4 buttons at the same time.
    Wait I thought it how you play Xin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gryffes View Post
    You run at people mash all 4 buttons at the same time.
    So, I am doing it right then.

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    These are confirming that I am indeed the best jungle ever.

  10. #7690
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    jesus the queue to log in..

  11. #7691
    RNGesus
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    Yeah wtf, 2 hour log in queue.

    Karma's a bitch.

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    I was supporting on Sona and my terrible ADC was really upset that I "took his kills" after he died from charging in like an idiot 3v1.

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    and thats why I love playing Sona... lol. She secures those kill like a boss

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    http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ps4cfaa543.png

    Almost there. I was first pick for whatever reason and everyone called everything but support(as always). I asked what the adc wanted to play and he said Ezreal; so naturally I went with Nami. I feel like Nami and ezreal are so tight together. Bless yourself and slow enemies, if they want to trade, Ez will just hit them. Bless Ez and let him slow people, if they want to trade, Q->w. Like, you can't have your lane pushed cause its a chasedown comp. However, if you let them push, you can definitely kill people before they reach their turret.

    Either way, just a few more games to go before i get placed (into Bronze VIII :D)

  15. #7695
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    Bronze 8 huh?

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    Zacs ganks are ridiculous especially being able to jump over top of the jungle into top lane on blue side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantrag View Post
    Bronze 8 huh?
    They'll have to make a new rank just for me; dat shit tier

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    zac is out.. just had one on my team. Seems pretty legit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolbeans View Post
    Zacs ganks are ridiculous especially being able to jump over top of the jungle into top lane on blue side.
    Hows that different from jarv/vi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gryffes View Post
    Hows that different from jarv/vi?
    The range is better than either of them.

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