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  1. #7841
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitsuki View Post
    Also, just bought GOD'Maw for shits n giggles, god damn he's so fucking good! I seriously need to stop not picking up champs based on my personal likings. Ezreal being an exception, god damn i hate that blonde bitchman. Gonna pick up Urgot next.

    *edit* GOD MAW
    Jayce goes on sale tomorrow. Time to spend some RP.

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    Weekend, lose most of my games for various reasons. Monday? Lose every game. To top it off, end up fighting a group of Riot employees.


  3. #7843
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    Need to go back to League.. Kinda miss it. Stopped playing because my RL friends would rageface about it on vent. Not really enjoyable.

  4. #7844
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    GD... 3k games of normal D;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassalot View Post
    Need to go back to League.. Kinda miss it. Stopped playing because my RL friends would rageface about it on vent. Not really enjoyable.
    This. Only I was the rager, so I just stopped for few months. I'm slowly getting back into it, and definetly not caring as much lol. I'm having fun again

  6. #7846
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    Okay, I can't seem to get over 60 points in silver 1. And I can finally say the losses aren't my fault. So if anyone wants to try a few ranked games, my user name is Ealdnarche. I can play any role, but my highest win rate seems to be ad and support bot.

  7. #7847
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    Once I get to Plat I'll be taking my Silver 1 account to at least Gold. D;

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    I'll hop along for a ride to gold :D

    I cant catch a break it seems

  9. #7849
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    I'll play with anyone. Prefer top or mid, and you don't want me playing ADC.

  10. #7850
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiryo View Post
    Okay, I can't seem to get over 60 points in silver 1. And I can finally say the losses aren't my fault. So if anyone wants to try a few ranked games, my user name is Ealdnarche. I can play any role, but my highest win rate seems to be ad and support bot.
    How is it not your fault? Even if you arent actively making them lose the game, what are you doing to make them win the game? Could you have played better? Gotten more cs? Made a better play? If yes to any of those how can you shift blame to the rest of your team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aero View Post
    How is it not your fault? Even if you arent actively making them lose the game, what are you doing to make them win the game? Could you have played better? Gotten more cs? Made a better play? If yes to any of those how can you shift blame to the rest of your team?
    While I agree with what you're saying, there are some games you literally cannot win.

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    Just got into ranked recently and placed in Silver V (Promoted to Silver IV yesterday), so far I'm liking the cooperative aspect(for the most part) of ranked, over norms :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aero View Post
    How is it not your fault? Even if you arent actively making them lose the game, what are you doing to make them win the game? Could you have played better? Gotten more cs? Made a better play? If yes to any of those how can you shift blame to the rest of your team?

    Okay this is perfect because hearing what I could have done differently may be very useful. So lets use my last Elise game as an example:

    I picked Elise to fight nidalee. Another picked Thresh for bottom lane AD. Another member got mad and picked Ezreal, so I told the Ezreal to go mid and I would play support Elise. In this game we proceed to shut down bottom lane Caitlyn and AP Sion to the point that they couldnt lane against us any more. Thresh and I could kill either Caitlyn or Sion if either of us land a skillshot on them. Meanwhile in toplane, Garen was losing HARD to nidalee. And by hard I mean Nidalee had Iceborn finished while Garen only had Swift boots and an emblem of valor. Nidalee ended that game 10/2/x compared to our Garen 3/8/0 (thats 0 as in he was involved in no fights besides his own kills). How did mid Ezreal fair? I believe he did get the first tower against syndra, and he ended 2/3/10, so nothing terrible here. Our jungle jax started off great with first blood, but the enemy Nautilus just did more work than him despite Jax being 9/7/2.

    So at some point, when top was gone and Garen was already down by 5 deaths and Nidalee began roaming, AP Sion and Caitlyn split to go farm. Sion actually had the most gold at the end of the game and they were winning 5v4 team fights while cait farmed.

    I suppose I could have switched with Garen when he said he was having trouble (garen was convinced nidalee would be support, despite me telling him she isn't). I say the game isn't my fault because I guess I am still in the mindset of "winning your lane = doing your job." Teamfights just could not be won and I'm not sure what I could have done to change that.

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    Couple things I notice off the bat. You say you supported yet have 62 minions. This means you either were taking cs in lane, or were not backing with your AD and taking farm while he was back. Or you were also solo farming a lane after lane phase was over. All of these scenarios are bad.

    You also have 6 inventory slots on a support. Meaning you can not get pink wards or extra wards over your 3 from sightstone. Late game 3 wards doesnt cut it when you have lost 4 or more turrets. Not to mention you are not denying vision on the other team. You dont need a dorans ring as much as you need wards. Lets say you are able to get a single pick due to 1 extra ward. At level 18 thats nearly a guaranteed Baron or inhibitor due to respawn timers.

    You opted for damage build on Elise when your team could have really used a bulwark, there are 2 high damage APs on that team with 2 minor APs. Bulwark would have helped a TON. Also Shurelyas could have potentially gotten a really good engage on their team or disengaged your own team from a bad fight.

    You said you were winning your bot lane really well. You could have pinked dragon and done it. You could have roamed mid and warded for ezreal and potentially killed Syndra. You could have warded their blue and killed Naut/Syndra/simply stole it. Being support doesnt mean support your AD, you should try to support your whole team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aero View Post
    Couple things I notice off the bat. You say you supported yet have 62 minions. This means you either were taking cs in lane, or were not backing with your AD and taking farm while he was back. Or you were also solo farming a lane after lane phase was over. All of these scenarios are bad.
    I'll try this differently next time. I rarely back with my AD if the lane isn't pushed or im not low health. I always felt that I could clear the current wave, then b afterward. Also I am really bad about clearing waves after lane phase is over because noone else on my team seems to do so. Let's say everyone is dancing around mid after a team fight, there won't be another team fight, yet bot or top is pushed to our inner turret. Neither adc reacts quickly enough to clear out the minions so I'll do it.

    You also have 6 inventory slots on a support. Meaning you can not get pink wards or extra wards over your 3 from sightstone. Late game 3 wards doesnt cut it when you have lost 4 or more turrets. Not to mention you are not denying vision on the other team. You dont need a dorans ring as much as you need wards. Lets say you are able to get a single pick due to 1 extra ward. At level 18 thats nearly a guaranteed Baron or inhibitor due to respawn timers.
    I bought the dorans ring because we had first blood if not a double kill bot. I felt like a free dorans ring on elise would have ben beneficial. I gues those extra wards would have been smarter though.

    You opted for damage build on Elise when your team could have really used a bulwark, there are 2 high damage APs on that team with 2 minor APs. Bulwark would have helped a TON. Also Shurelyas could have potentially gotten a really good engage on their team or disengaged your own team from a bad fight.
    Garen bought bulwark. But seeing as he was not involved in any fights besides his own, I guess I should have built it instead lol

    You said you were winning your bot lane really well. You could have pinked dragon and done it. You could have roamed mid and warded for ezreal and potentially killed Syndra. You could have warded their blue and killed Naut/Syndra/simply stole it. Being support doesnt mean support your AD, you should try to support your whole team.
    We got the 1st 2 dragons with ease. After that, when Nidalee left her lane, we couldn't get it any more. I'm never too confident about leaving the bot adc alone as support
    Responses in bold. Thanks for the speedy reply.

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    don't play support until you're with players that are around your skill level or you won't climb very quickly

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    gg no re.

    Threshcrank botlane ftw.


  18. #7858
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    Jayce combo: Starting in ranged > E > Q (toss in W somewhere) > dive in > W > Q > E to prevent them from escaping?

    Anything I'm missing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiryo View Post
    Responses in bold. Thanks for the speedy reply.
    I'll try this differently next time. I rarely back with my AD if the lane isn't pushed or im not low health. I always felt that I could clear the current wave, then b afterward. Also I am really bad about clearing waves after lane phase is over because noone else on my team seems to do so. Let's say everyone is dancing around mid after a team fight, there won't be another team fight, yet bot or top is pushed to our inner turret. Neither adc reacts quickly enough to clear out the minions so I'll do it.
    Unless the lane is pushed to your tower, or immediately next to their tower with no one there, don't push it, the closer it is to your tower, without being at your tower, the better, generally. Unless it's at their tower denying them farm/exp.

    I bought the dorans ring because we had first blood if not a double kill bot. I felt like a free dorans ring on elise would have ben beneficial. I gues those extra wards would have been smarter though.
    Don't keep a Doran's Ring if you have no inventory slots on a support, not sure what the belt was turning into, but after boots/guise you had more than enough to do more damage than the average support. Not that you should exactly be building these things, no matter how ahead your specific lane is, support Elise of course. Focus on everyone's lane, not yours. They had AP Sion bot, if you walk up and get stunned you won that lane anyway.

    Garen bought bulwark. But seeing as he was not involved in any fights besides his own, I guess I should have built it instead lol
    Reverie/Zeke's if ADC is fed enough/WotA if applicable/Locket.

    We got the 1st 2 dragons with ease. After that, when Nidalee left her lane, we couldn't get it any more. I'm never too confident about leaving the bot adc alone as support
    Warn him that you're leaving, tell him to be safe. You should be warding River/Tri/Dragon/Their Blue if applicable side/Jungle Entrances in that order, more or less. If they were all doing dragon, use that chance to push mid tower or top tower.


    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree View Post
    Jayce combo: Starting in ranged > E > Q (toss in W somewhere) > dive in > W > Q > E to prevent them from escaping?

    Anything I'm missing?
    Hammer Auto before E. Try and get in front of them before E to knock them back. W in cannon and switching to hammer gives you 3 super fast hammer autos. Try and Cannon auto before the combo if you just swapped, for the armor and MR reduction.

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    Since he's one of this week's free champions, I've been dicking around with Thresh. Dude is mad fun. I'm not looking forward to saving up all those IP, but I don't want to go back to a world where I don't have access to that guy.

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