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    I tend not to care if I get KS a lot--unless it's some useless PUG who does it over and over. If I'm with people I know, I definitely look at scores as K+A. Someone died, your team gets gold.

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    I stopped playing ranked precisely for that reason. It just isn't fun when you're berated just because closed minded players had bad experiences with certain champions. I've had people yell at me because I chose Shaco jungle, then I carried the game despite their protest. Fact is, more players do well playing champions they're comfortable with but in ranked everyone must play in the 'Elementz Tier List Bubble' or face ridicule and blame for losing the game; even if you're carrying the game.

    Fuck Elementz Tier List
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    Fuck the sheep
    Fuck ranked

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisamoo View Post
    I stopped playing ranked precisely for that reason. It just isn't fun when you're berated just because closed minded players had bad experiences with certain champions. I've had people yell at me because I chose Shaco jungle, then I carried the game despite their protest. Fact is, more players do well playing champions they're comfortable with but in ranked everyone must play in the 'Elementz Tier List Bubble' or face ridicule and blame for losing the game; even if you're carrying the game.

    Fuck Elementz Tier List
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    Fuck the sheep
    Fuck ranked
    Can't remember the last time I've seen someone quote Elementz's tier list. High ELO streamers help out the community a lot, and of course sheeps are retarded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisamoo View Post
    I stopped playing ranked precisely for that reason. It just isn't fun when you're berated just because closed minded players had bad experiences with certain champions. I've had people yell at me because I chose Shaco jungle, then I carried the game despite their protest. Fact is, more players do well playing champions they're comfortable with but in ranked everyone must play in the 'Elementz Tier List Bubble' or face ridicule and blame for losing the game; even if you're carrying the game.

    Fuck Elementz Tier List
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    Fuck the sheep
    Fuck ranked
    Whoever you played with that time, were dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackMoomba View Post
    Can't remember the last time I've seen someone quote Elementz's tier list. High ELO streamers help out the community a lot, and of course sheeps are retarded.
    Elementz Tier List is merely a reflection of the most frequently used champions at high ranked play; but this compounded with the influence of streamers has made mid-lower elo players incredibly closed minded. 99% of the players cannot use 'tier 1' champions at the level of top players, but their influence trickles down to low-mid elo players who refuse to acknowledge team work and try new synergies that work at that level of play; they would rather try to emulate high level play aka try hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivero View Post
    You got time to farm. I'm pretty sure he won't be out for another 5-6 days.
    Eh, won't he just be out on tuesday as per normal? That gives me 3 days now xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisamoo View Post
    I've had people yell at me because I chose Shaco jungle, then I carried the game despite their protest.
    While I give most everyone the benefit of the doubt, I hate Shacos. And I'm usually not fond of jungling, either, honestly. So put them together and I get a taste of ugh in my mouth. Or maybe it's that most Shacos I've played with fall into two categories: 1. Self-centered assholes who only jump in to get a kill and then jump out, not really helping overall and 2. Absolute terribad players. So my opinion of Shacos in general are a resounding "meh, I wish you'd pick someone else."

    Fact is, more players do well playing champions they're comfortable with but in ranked everyone must play in the 'Elementz Tier List Bubble' or face ridicule and blame for losing the game; even if you're carrying the game.
    The main reason I'm not too fond of ranked games. I honestly have around 5 champions I play often and well. And, honestly, it's really two I play really well with a few others I play moderately well. Every ranked game I've done, I've always been in the last round to pick (I'm guessing that's determined by rank?). "I'm best at Kennen, Morg or Ezreal," I say. What do they pick? Ranged carry and other AP champions making what I'd like to play bring nothing new to the team. Hurray, I'm now forced to play the tank! Which I'm honestly not that great at.

    Edit: Oh, and on the Elementz front...For some reason I get the feeling that he is basically LoL's Taj.

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    While I give most everyone the benefit of the doubt, I hate Shacos. And I'm usually not fond of jungling, either, honestly. So put them together and I get a taste of ugh in my mouth. Or maybe it's that most Shacos I've played with fall into two categories: 1. Self-centered assholes who only jump in to get a kill and then jump out, not really helping overall and 2. Absolute terribad players. So my opinion of Shacos in general are a resounding "meh, I wish you'd pick someone else."
    Not gonna lie, the best overall junglers I've seen have been Shacos by far. Since Shaco kind of needs to gank early game to be useful, they know how to actually do it unlike most of the Udyr, Nunu, Warwicks, ect I play with.

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    From what I've seen my favorite junglers are Udyr, Shaco, and Fiddles, in no particular order. Those are the only 3 that reliably try to help gank before lvl 6 from what I've seen since they don't 100% rely on an ult to help. They all have something to offer coming out of nowhere @ any level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisamoo View Post
    Elementz Tier List is merely a reflection of the most frequently used champions at high ranked play; but this compounded with the influence of streamers has made mid-lower elo players incredibly closed minded. 99% of the players cannot use 'tier 1' champions at the level of top players, but their influence trickles down to low-mid elo players who refuse to acknowledge team work and try new synergies that work at that level of play; they would rather try to emulate high level play aka try hard.
    umad

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_OG_Nelta View Post
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    No, you got it wrong, they mad at me picking Shaco.

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    I have been playing with my friends a lot whom are all level 30s, I'm level 11, and I played against a Shaco for the first time and felt his wrath. Dude stacked AP and puts 2-3 dolls in grass. I was on Ashe and ran into said grass and died within literally 1 second. From the dolls alone. I was like sheeiiiiiiiiiiit. Eventually I caught up in gear and raped him later, but was still disgusted by how much damage he can do. Overall though, he was pretty useless to his team and only showed up at the ass end of a team fight to clean up, which ended up losing them the game.

    Edit: Level 12 now! Woop woop

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrath View Post
    Eh, won't he just be out on tuesday as per normal? That gives me 3 days now xD
    If you're europe you got 4. I'm pretty sure it's Tuesday 100% though since there's already a leaked Champion Spotlight so it's ready to ship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djghost454 View Post
    From what I've seen my favorite junglers are Udyr, Shaco, and Fiddles, in no particular order. Those are the only 3 that reliably try to help gank before lvl 6 from what I've seen since they don't 100% rely on an ult to help. They all have something to offer coming out of nowhere @ any level.
    You should try Nunu/Amumu Best two gankers aside from Shaco/Fiddle IMO. The plus side is they are beefy and can take a lot more hits and in general are stronger picks. Olaf is a nice ganker too if you can land his axe.

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    Trundle is a great jungler/ganker as well, very resilient and some nice control.
    Very underrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gryffes View Post
    Trundle is a great jungler/ganker as well, very resilient and some nice control.
    Very underrated.
    EH not very underrated. He's pretty up there in high ELO games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivero View Post
    If you're europe you got 4. I'm pretty sure it's Tuesday 100% though since there's already a leaked Champion Spotlight so it's ready to ship.
    Is it an actual spotlight or just the sneak peak from ign?

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    I didn't mean those are the only good junglers, just the ones I've seen played the best imo. I don't jungle myself, I've tried it and it never ends up working out. Usually played olaf if I tried jungling tho, and never really did well as him in the first place. He's fun as shit, but I can't figure out a reliable build/playstyle for him that works for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivero View Post
    You should try Nunu/Amumu Best two gankers aside from Shaco/Fiddle IMO. The plus side is they are beefy and can take a lot more hits and in general are stronger picks. Olaf is a nice ganker too if you can land his axe.
    I still think Amumu is an absolutely terrible Jungler, but he is so bad at laning that its kind of important to do. Has to start blue, jungles at low health, can't gank well until level 6 (at least imo), his kill speed isn't even that fast.

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    If you can land the Bandage toss, he ganks better than most pre-6 junglers.

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